Post by Rabbit on Mar 21, 2014 19:49:01 GMT
Playing around with my DT1350 today revealed a bass that I didn't know was there!!
I've been reading about them all over the internet quite a few bad reports are scattered all over the place. Even to the point of Beyer quality control being up the creak. Since I've been using the AKG Tiesto headphones, I thought I'd try to compare what they both do. I spoke to a technician at Beyer UK about them who said basically what I did today .....
Reading reports on the internet about placing the DT1350 in the right place got me curious again, so I played around with positioning. Here's the thing, I believe that people 'think' they have a seal when in fact, they haven't!!
I did a test with no music playing when I thought I had a seal, and realised that if I rubbed my thumb and forefinger together near the cups, I could plainly hear it. (Very bad for a sealed headphone) I realised that I haven't yet found a place where the headphone seals. (This what the technician suggested)
So I loosened the cups by pushing them further down and then 'placed' the cups very precisely on my ears and moving them around until I could no longer hear my thumb and forefinger so easily. Then put the music on and the bass appears and is extremely deep to say the least!!! It is actually there after all. It also hits quite hard.
The placing for me is quite strange. I saw on the internet that many claim pushing them forward gets a seal. not so for me. If I make sure that the cups sit firmly on the inside of the 'flaps' of my ears, the front seals better and the bass becomes quite profound.
It makes it into a very different headphone since not only does the bass improve, but the presence and the mids are way better defined and the timbre is a lot more natural.
I know that Solderdude uses HD25 pads on his (and a filter). Mine are stock (same one that Tyll measured actually) but the sound is way better than I have ever thought.
It's a great pity about the pads on these. If there was something softer that 'spread out' a bit more, perhaps the seal would be easier.
Once you get a seal, they are tremendous actually!! All this time I've had them, I've never got this amount of bass from them. You wouldn't believe that they're such a small headphone from the clout that you get. Much more Beyer like as well.
I'm glad I never sold them now.
It has me wondering about the guys who are measuing these headphones. Whether they are getting a proper seal on their rigs because on one site, I see coldness/coolness a bass dip (plus others) and I'm now not getting this 'coolness' (which I really was before)and it's a warm, fruity type sound.
Looking at internet reports shows some getting a cold sound to others gettinga warm sound. I'm getting a warm sound now whereas before it was absolutely 'blue' cold with a nasty sounding treble and a horrible mid (with cuppiness) and no bass.
Now it feels like a proper headphone for sure and very hi fi too!!
So if you have one..... an hour fiddling with your ears really pays off. Once you learn where that seal is, it's easier and well worth the effort. Even with stock pads.
I had really lost all faith in the DT1350 until my ocd fiddling today when I finally found the right place for my ears. The headband opens so once you have the cups in the precise position, opening the headband up with the cups in place tightens the seal as well.
What a pleasant surprise!!!
I've been reading about them all over the internet quite a few bad reports are scattered all over the place. Even to the point of Beyer quality control being up the creak. Since I've been using the AKG Tiesto headphones, I thought I'd try to compare what they both do. I spoke to a technician at Beyer UK about them who said basically what I did today .....
Reading reports on the internet about placing the DT1350 in the right place got me curious again, so I played around with positioning. Here's the thing, I believe that people 'think' they have a seal when in fact, they haven't!!
I did a test with no music playing when I thought I had a seal, and realised that if I rubbed my thumb and forefinger together near the cups, I could plainly hear it. (Very bad for a sealed headphone) I realised that I haven't yet found a place where the headphone seals. (This what the technician suggested)
So I loosened the cups by pushing them further down and then 'placed' the cups very precisely on my ears and moving them around until I could no longer hear my thumb and forefinger so easily. Then put the music on and the bass appears and is extremely deep to say the least!!! It is actually there after all. It also hits quite hard.
The placing for me is quite strange. I saw on the internet that many claim pushing them forward gets a seal. not so for me. If I make sure that the cups sit firmly on the inside of the 'flaps' of my ears, the front seals better and the bass becomes quite profound.
It makes it into a very different headphone since not only does the bass improve, but the presence and the mids are way better defined and the timbre is a lot more natural.
I know that Solderdude uses HD25 pads on his (and a filter). Mine are stock (same one that Tyll measured actually) but the sound is way better than I have ever thought.
It's a great pity about the pads on these. If there was something softer that 'spread out' a bit more, perhaps the seal would be easier.
Once you get a seal, they are tremendous actually!! All this time I've had them, I've never got this amount of bass from them. You wouldn't believe that they're such a small headphone from the clout that you get. Much more Beyer like as well.
I'm glad I never sold them now.
It has me wondering about the guys who are measuing these headphones. Whether they are getting a proper seal on their rigs because on one site, I see coldness/coolness a bass dip (plus others) and I'm now not getting this 'coolness' (which I really was before)and it's a warm, fruity type sound.
Looking at internet reports shows some getting a cold sound to others gettinga warm sound. I'm getting a warm sound now whereas before it was absolutely 'blue' cold with a nasty sounding treble and a horrible mid (with cuppiness) and no bass.
Now it feels like a proper headphone for sure and very hi fi too!!
So if you have one..... an hour fiddling with your ears really pays off. Once you learn where that seal is, it's easier and well worth the effort. Even with stock pads.
I had really lost all faith in the DT1350 until my ocd fiddling today when I finally found the right place for my ears. The headband opens so once you have the cups in the precise position, opening the headband up with the cups in place tightens the seal as well.
What a pleasant surprise!!!