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Post by Rabbit on Jan 18, 2015 18:37:12 GMT
That's often the case Ian. Some profiles you'll find online have followed a calibration tool but many are just some bloke doing it by eye. Exactly, Gordon. I can do it better myself!! It's a 50 or 55" Viera 3D HD TV Javier. Very good. Sharp as hell. That's exactly why I want to calibrate it. It's a good TV.
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Post by Javier on Jan 18, 2015 18:52:27 GMT
I meant the complete model name, something like TX-50xxxxx so I can download the manual from Pana's site and see can can be done with it. There is a great TV review site and maybe they've reviewed yours: www.hdtvtest.co.uk/
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Post by Rabbit on Jan 18, 2015 19:04:47 GMT
Sorry Javier. It's a
TX-L55DT50B
I can't find anything trustworthy on the Internet, but I would like to get away from the bright, overblown picture that they are preset to!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 19:06:46 GMT
Yup, Javier clearly knows what he's talking about. I once spent some time with a Kuro and it was fantastic! I do think the modern Panny's beat it though.
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Post by Rabbit on Jan 18, 2015 19:16:56 GMT
Yes, Javier is frightening. He sits there quietly and then you suddenly find out that he knows what to do!!! Scary!!!!!! It's really not a bad tv. Sharp as anything and good contrast ranges. Blacks not as deep as they could be. There are a lot of adjustments that can be made via 'Professional' settings or what they call 'Cinema' settings, but it's not good enough to do it by eye. Like a headphone in that respect. In a headphone, I like neutral with maybe a lift in the bass. In a TV, I like grey with a wide dynamic range.
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Post by Javier on Jan 18, 2015 19:24:15 GMT
Got the manual and in page 68 saw it has:
- 2 point (high/low) white point control - Full CMS (Hue, Saturation & Luminance for each primary ->R,G&B) - 4 gamma curves from 1.8 to 2.6
The above used in conjunction with basic controls (brigthness, contrast, clolour, backlighting, sharpness, etc,) should make possible to get the best out of the tely (within its limits of course).
If you want it professionally calibrated I'd suggest looking for a ISF certified pro in your area and ask for a quote, if he doesn't ask for silly money it'll be much better than doing it yourself because is not an easy task, lots have to be understood and learned which takes very long and proper gear is expensive.
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Post by Rabbit on Jan 18, 2015 19:26:47 GMT
There are indeed loads of settings but as you say. Calibrating a TV is not an easy job to do.
I have the gamma at 2.2 and stick at the moment with the presets, but turn off completely, the sharpness.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 22:36:12 GMT
On modern Panny's the Cinema preset gets damn close to ideal. The only problem with Cinema is maybe contrast which could do with a slight boost unless you're always watching in the dark. Ambient light kills contrast. And yes, turn the sharpness off altogether. Turn every 'feature' off actually as they're all mince. That's a technical term.
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Post by juke on Jan 19, 2015 0:08:02 GMT
I meant the complete model name, something like TX-50xxxxx so I can download the manual from Pana's site and see can can be done with it. There is a great TV review site and maybe they've reviewed yours: www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Hi Javier I have a Samsung UE55F8000, would you maybe sometime have a look it's manual? I've had it about 18 months. I have kept meaning to read about the controls, but other than setting a few basic things I've not done anything. It seems to give a nice picture 'as is', funny enough TV picture has never got to me the way audio has. This one surprised me by looking noticeably better than the downstairs Samsung Series 5 46". The grandchildren (eldest 8) love it for games and I must say their XBox stuff looks good on it. Syd
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Post by Javier on Jan 19, 2015 8:46:13 GMT
Hi Syd, There us a great in depth review of your tely here: www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-ue55f8000-201303212755.htmIt uncludes some very good tips for setting it up. Btw, not everyone likes properly calibrated displays (D65 white + ITU-R BT 709/Rec. 709 and lately ITU-R BT.1886). Many prefer the more 'punchy' dynamic or standard modes because they find well adjusted image too reddish and dark. Sent from my GT-I9100 using proboards
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Post by elysion on Jan 19, 2015 10:40:54 GMT
Javier, have you ever tried to calibrate a TV for D50 (5000K whitepoint as it is most common in the prepress)? My computer displays are calibrated to a 5000K whitepoint and IMHO videos look much more natural with it. D65 (6500K) is somewhat too blue for my taste (but your're right: D65/6500K is the standard for videos).
BTW: Nice to see, how this thread is evolving. I have also a general question about DIYAH: DIYAH is focused on audio primarily. But what about neighbouring topics? Is it also desirable to post about multimedia or TV related subjects? DVB, for example, would be also an interesting theme and, TBH, I'm quite enjoying the current talk about TV calibration in this thread. I'm a guy from the prepress and it's broadening my horizon about calibration in general. I'm also thinking about starting a thread about PCI/PCIe soundcards in "Javier's Digital Byte". I was able to gain some additional experience about this in the last few years.
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Post by juke on Jan 19, 2015 14:03:27 GMT
Thanks Javier, I had looked at your link to that site last night but a search only came up with a different model, not unusual for me. It is an excellent review, as you say, with a fantastic amount of information. I had my TV set to, I think, Natural and tried Movie as they suggest. I thought it looked quite dull for a few minutes, but a bit like changing headphones, it quickly became very good. I had read before that this TV is best viewed in brighter light and agree that it deals with that situation very well. In my case though the room it's in has the sun shining straight across the TV. I only use it late at night but the grand children were having problems during the day so I got a wind-down blackout blind installed, complete with side runners. Now I find I use it at night as well as it makes a significant difference to room temperature as well, a nice bonus at this time of year. With the right movie on it gives the effect of the screen floating in space, quite amazing. I'll fiddle a bit more tonight, when I've reread this article again. Syd
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