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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 17:55:40 GMT
A friend of mine's is a professional photographer and he brought his calibration meter around when we got the new telly. It was remarkably close in True Cinema mode. Not a difference you can really see with the naked eye. There actually aren't that many companies who manufacture LCD panels. Most companies buy them in from the others. Panasonic, Samsung & LG make there own, although LG only relatively recently. I used to use my Panny as my Mac's monitor but it wasn't really up to the job. For computers you really want an IPS panel. So I bought a cheap AOC IPS panel and it's amazing. The colour rendition is nigh on perfect. All for £100 or thereabouts.
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Post by chinook9 on Feb 15, 2016 18:01:15 GMT
Received the new 7000 4k over Christmas and it was quite excellent. However it also failed... just 5 days of light use. Power supply had a major failure that also took out the panel. Talk about bad luck. A few weeks later, the tech arrived and installed a new power supply and panel. Hi Jeremy! Now you've got me to thinking about the extended warranty that I didn't get on mine. I 'll check and see how much it would cost. I never buy extended insurance, but in this case I'll reconsider.
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Post by Javier on Feb 15, 2016 19:20:00 GMT
Proper calibration with RGB meter (not print/photo types) and software makes a very big difference in PQ. Most mid to high end modern TVs on top of basic controls like brightnes, contrast, backlight, sharpnes, etc. have advanced ones like adjustable white balance and fully fledged CMSs that allow for very accurate adjustment to standards. For those who dont want to invest in calibration gear or learn this rather complex stuff, there are many ISF certified companies or pros that calibrate displays at home for a fee.
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Post by hifidez on Feb 16, 2016 9:36:29 GMT
A friend of mine's is a professional photographer and he brought his calibration meter around when we got the new telly. It was remarkably close in True Cinema mode. Not a difference you can really see with the naked eye. There actually aren't that many companies who manufacture LCD panels. Most companies buy them in from the others. Panasonic, Samsung & LG make there own, although LG only relatively recently. I used to use my Panny as my Mac's monitor but it wasn't really up to the job. For computers you really want an IPS panel. So I bought a cheap AOC IPS panel and it's amazing. The colour rendition is nigh on perfect. All for £100 or thereabouts. Thanks for AOC pointer. I would benefit from a better monitor for photo editing. Derek
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Post by hifidez on Feb 16, 2016 9:48:56 GMT
Definitely. I have a 55 or 60 inch Panny (not sure of its size) which is always set on True Cinema because of the very same thing. I played with the OLED sertings in the shop and I wasn't sure that I could set it to something that looked as natural as my Panny. It was bright for sure but blacks were so pitch that I suspected night scenes would be too dark and yet lighter scenes were like looking at a bulb. I find the Panasonic at home very natural, but that might just be me being used to it. Couple of years ago I upgraded my old 480p 42" Panasonic plasma monitor to a new 55" Panasonic HD plasma TV. I use my own settings and have balanced it for evening viewing when the ambient light is low. Fabulous picture quality. Daytime viewing, if necessary I just use one of the brighter pre-sets. I have all the 'enhancements' turned off, like noise reduction etc. To set up the picture without the use of pro set-up gear I just turn the colour saturation to zero. Then, with the resulting b & w picture, I find it easy to get brightness and contrast just right. Dial the colour back in making sure to leave it on the subtle side; a little under half way up suits me on my particular Panasonic. Lights out and it's a cinematic experience. Bluray in particualr is fabulous. Derek
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Post by Rabbit on Feb 16, 2016 10:05:03 GMT
Thanks Derek. I use the True Cinema setting with all gizmos switched out. Cinema setting is slightly different on mine in that it looks 'cooler' in colour temperature.
I always switch sharpness and other stuff out though.
Colour balance is a tricky thing. When I was younger, if I was hard up for work, I used to produce cibrachrome prints from slides which I took for mag articles. Getting colour right was such a thing but I'm those days, it had to be done at the camera end more so than at the print end.
I used to compare the print skin colour with my own skin on my hand in order to judge colour balance.
TV colour is really difficult because the source is often skewed and we no longer have a test card. I think some blue ray discs have a set up though.
I do like the Panasonic picture a lot though. It seems very natural to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 15:56:19 GMT
Definitely. I have a 55 or 60 inch Panny (not sure of its size) which is always set on True Cinema because of the very same thing. I played with the OLED sertings in the shop and I wasn't sure that I could set it to something that looked as natural as my Panny. It was bright for sure but blacks were so pitch that I suspected night scenes would be too dark and yet lighter scenes were like looking at a bulb. I find the Panasonic at home very natural, but that might just be me being used to it. Couple of years ago I upgraded my old 480p 42" Panasonic plasma monitor to a new 55" Panasonic HD plasma TV. I use my own settings and have balanced it for evening viewing when the ambient light is low. Fabulous picture quality. Daytime viewing, if necessary I just use one of the brighter pre-sets. I have all the 'enhancements' turned off, like noise reduction etc. To set up the picture without the use of pro set-up gear I just turn the colour saturation to zero. Then, with the resulting b & w picture, I find it easy to get brightness and contrast just right. Dial the colour back in making sure to leave it on the subtle side; a little under half way up suits me on my particular Panasonic.Lights out and it's a cinematic experience. Bluray in particualr is fabulous. Derek I guess you probably already know but this is a good method when editing photos too. It helps see the 'shape' of the finished picture. And yes, I'd buy another AOC in a heartbeat. The only negative is that IPS panels are not good for gaming. No problem for me but just a heads-up.
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Post by oldson on Feb 16, 2016 18:17:23 GMT
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Post by Rabbit on Feb 16, 2016 19:04:51 GMT
That's a great price for something like that. I wonder how well 4k translates to HD? I'm interested myself!!
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Post by hifidez on Feb 16, 2016 20:14:05 GMT
Couple of years ago I upgraded my old 480p 42" Panasonic plasma monitor to a new 55" Panasonic HD plasma TV. I use my own settings and have balanced it for evening viewing when the ambient light is low. Fabulous picture quality. Daytime viewing, if necessary I just use one of the brighter pre-sets. I have all the 'enhancements' turned off, like noise reduction etc. To set up the picture without the use of pro set-up gear I just turn the colour saturation to zero. Then, with the resulting b & w picture, I find it easy to get brightness and contrast just right. Dial the colour back in making sure to leave it on the subtle side; a little under half way up suits me on my particular Panasonic.Lights out and it's a cinematic experience. Bluray in particualr is fabulous. Derek I guess you probably already know but this is a good method when editing photos too. It helps see the 'shape' of the finished picture. And yes, I'd buy another AOC in a heartbeat. The only negative is that IPS panels are not good for gaming. No problem for me but just a heads-up. No, I don't game either. But the tip for editing phots in B & W. Genious. I'll give that a go. Didn't know that... but obvious. Doh! Derek
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