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Post by musicman on Oct 27, 2015 1:24:23 GMT
Thanks for listening. When the filter assembly is ready I will be first in line for it, also the remote power on/off switch has merit as well. The balanced amp would be nice, a more expensive piece to be sure, but I think there may be a market to tap. It might be a large step up, but then looking at the line that Garage 1217 has at the moment, they are all close to each other, not alot of difference, in price or options. Just thought it might be a new direction to shoot for, to step up to a different type of amp, diffentiate from the old to a little more expensive, different class of amp. I am happy with the Ember but have been looking at a couple of kits like the Elekit. With the new Sennheiser HD800S headphone coming on line, there are already alot of used 800's in the 8-900 range, so it might be a new direction to take, not saying to quit what you have,but to expand into new market direction. AS far as reaching behind the two tube setup, I swiviled the adapter so the tubes are in line front to back instead of side by side, like the look better and it does ease the right around somewhat. Good luck in either case, Don
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Post by jhelms on Oct 27, 2015 15:09:32 GMT
Kind of lost me on them being close to each other and not a lot of difference... totally lost me in fact. We have amplifiers spanning opamp roll-able, a unique high powered solid state, and several topologies dedicated to different impedance ranges and needs - spanning both kits and built amplifiers from $159 to $389 depending on what one wants? And with power output ranges from 700mW-2.4WPC? We can roll and utilize more tubes than any other company in existence and have detailed features / settings and options no one else has. I think our designs are about the most diversified available. Sure looks and layouts are similar, this helps keeps a theme and if common parts can be shared, this helps lower price for the customer. Not attempting to come across wrong, just rather taken back by the comments - very surprised by them actually. But to the other points, rest assured we have a LOT of ideas that are bounced around non-stop. In any case - best wishes with whatever you decide to do and enjoy the music  |
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Post by musicman on Oct 27, 2015 15:49:31 GMT
Lost me too when re-read it. Old age infirmity, pick one, I answer to all. Did not mean to denigrate any of the products just looking for something a little different, I guess. There you go same words,depends on where you look. Semantics, going to be the end of us yet
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Post by jhelms on Oct 27, 2015 17:14:22 GMT
Lost me too when re-read it. Old age infirmity, pick one, I answer to all. Did not mean to denigrate any of the products just looking for something a little different, I guess. There you go same words,depends on where you look. Semantics, going to be the end of us yet All good man Rest assured though - we have a lot of cool things in mind! Just trying to figure the best way to implement them without causing hemorrhaging of the wallet! |
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Post by musicman on Oct 28, 2015 0:45:33 GMT
Cool, with all the hemorrhaging of my wallet with my wife's medical bill'
s it would be nice to spend some on something like this. Keep up the good work, and don't mind old people, we are here today and gone tomorrow anyways!
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Post by tunkejazz on Oct 28, 2015 21:33:14 GMT
Somewhat inspired by this conversation, would it make sense to develop a tube buffer to be used with a "normal" SS speaker amp? I know the Ember has a pre-out, but every time someone mentions this use for the Ember it seems to raise some eyebrows ;-)
My two cents, I am very happy with my Ember and intrigued about using tubes with my stereo!
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Post by musicman on Oct 29, 2015 2:01:00 GMT
I have used it as a pre out for a Harman-Kardon avr 510 and works well, no problems on my end.
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Post by jhelms on Oct 29, 2015 3:36:09 GMT
Somewhat inspired by this conversation, would it make sense to develop a tube buffer to be used with a "normal" SS speaker amp? I know the Ember has a pre-out, but every time someone mentions this use for the Ember it seems to raise some eyebrows ;-) My two cents, I am very happy with my Ember and intrigued about using tubes with my stereo! Ember, Horizon, and Sunrise all act as a tube buffer with volume control. For some reason, people got the idea that the pre-out had nothing to do with the tube circuit and was just a pass through (I guess some others do this?). This is not the case. The line-out is an extension of the headphone out reduced in level, so all of the lovely tube goodness is also present on the line out. With my office setups, I use them this way as it gives me desktop volume control and I can quickly plug in headphones. |
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Post by tunkejazz on Oct 29, 2015 11:19:20 GMT
Thanks Jeremy, I don't know why a lot of people end up praying "the Ember was not intended to be used as a tube pre-amp" every time a new user wants to try exactly that, but your clarification makes a lot of sense to me :-)
BTW, today I received a pair of Reflektor 6N23P single wire...they sound fantastic!
I am glad in the end I went for a pair of Russian tubes, I had to try them :-P
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Post by solderdude on Oct 29, 2015 13:55:24 GMT
A tube buffer usually has 1x gain (or slightly less) and therefore does not amplify nor attenuate nor does it have a volume control.
The signal either just passes through a gain stage with tubes and has a lot of feedback or is a cathode follower circuit.
This adds low amounts of harmonics belonging to tubes.
Usually less in amplitude than what Ember achieves.
Pre-amps usually are associated with more than one (selectable) input.
Ember is neither and thus is not really considered a tube buffer nor a (multiple input) pre-amp.
Ember RCA-out basically is a volume controlled pre-amplifier with just one input.
Ember is primarily designed for driving headphones but also has RCA-out. This is (probably) the reason why many think it is not optimal as a pre-amp/buffer alternative.
True, it was primarily designed as a headphone amplifier but also has line-out RCA's which can be connected to all power amplifiers, or integrated amplifiers / receivers and what not.
The RCA out is specifically designed for that task and does it just as well as other tube pre-amps or buffer circuits.
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Post by tunkejazz on Oct 29, 2015 15:40:12 GMT
I only have one input (from my dac) :-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 16:19:05 GMT
It works well as a tube buffer in my opinion. My speakers are not in an ideal position for listening and so the treble can be a bit 'immediate'. Not so with a warm tube in place. Actually the tubes I prefr when listening to speakers are the same ones I'm less fond of when listening to my HD 650's. That's handy.
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Post by richard51 on Nov 3, 2015 1:32:28 GMT
Hello to all my friends here... I want to describe my experience with the Ember this last weeks... I had the HE 400 headphone and i was never totally satisfied with them for the 2 years now i had owned them...I try to change the amplifier and i had try a powerful receiver (Hitachi sr 904 ) and drive my he 400 directly from the speakers out... The results seems to me interesting at first compared to the Ember...More powerful presence ...But i was not satisfied completely ... I try something very interesting... I use sorbothane to absorb vibrations from the headphone... With success the He 400 respond well...But when i discovered by myself the right application mod of the sorbothane , i try the Ember anew, wow! a truely extraordinary experience.... I will sell my Hitachi, the Ember is a very good amplifier better than the powerful receiver and i now listen to the Ember because the he 400 + sorbothane mod let him speak clearly....Ember is very good with planars BUT trust me ALL headphones had problem with vibration, sorbothane adress that... read the sorbothane thread on headfi where i described my modification of the he 400 ...best regards to all of you  p.s. By the way the He 400 +sorbothane modification with the Ember is better for me than my basic Stax system...the sound is more realistic , less artificial, less " crystal like perfect" but more livelier, more incarnated, more dynamic, more 3D... |
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Post by luckbad on Nov 8, 2015 1:24:16 GMT
Has anyone heard the Shuguang Treasure CV181-Z? Do you know of a good source? How's the bass? Thanks!
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Post by tunkejazz on Nov 8, 2015 19:29:12 GMT
Has anyone heard the Shuguang Treasure CV181-Z? Do you know of a good source? How's the bass? Thanks! Have you tried the Sylvania 6SN7 "Bad Boys"? Around the same price than the Shuguang on ebay. Great bass, drums sound big and deep, but there is a lot of control. The advantage of these is that the rest of the spectrum sounds lovely. |
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