Now that I live in a very small house I have to use the sound bar rather than a full blown system with my TV. Sound bars are fantastic for that is they take up so little space.
One thing that I consistently here with my sound bar is sound doesn't seem to come from them! Speech is normally centred and left and right for people on the side of the screen, but very often with the music I feel as though the sound is coming from way beyond the speakers.
So for each side I'm getting centre, left and very far left very clearly. The sounds that come from way off speaker are quite disconcerting sometimes and I do wonder how on earth does any speaker do this? It's literally as though the speaker isn't making the noise at all and there is something else going on.
This only works with speakers. The sound is manipulated and you have to hear the left and right speakers with BOTH ears for this to work. Headphones have left and right strictly separated so it doesn't work there.
You can widen the stereo image arificially (ifi has a button for it) and you can use software like Out Of Your Head but for me it doesn't work at all.
My TV can pull of the same trick when a proper TV signal is applied or it is set to 'wide'. With music the sound changes too much for my liking. Works great with movies etc.
use your EARS to enjoy MUSIC .... NOT as an analyzer
It is quite startling. I was literally looking out f the window, since some of the sounds seemed to come from extreme left, nowhere near my speaker. So clear as well. I have no sound manipulation on the soundbar either.
Sting did some experiments way back with Q sound and that was pretty weird. That sent sounds (manipulated electronically) way beyond my speakers.
You are right about hearing both speakers with each ear, since moving off axis makes the image compress back to the speakers. Also, turning your head changes it.
lobalwarming: Meanwhile... stick some cotton rolls under the pad roll to fluff 'em out a bit. Or just admit you like the free bass boost from worn pads. It's what I do. Except the admitting part
Oct 5, 2021 22:51:55 GMT
Mr Trev: "few days". It's said that for at least a couple weeks. I though about Brainwavz since they make adapters for Senn. Reviews say they're 3d printed garbage tho
Oct 6, 2021 0:52:14 GMT
Mr Trev: Maybe I should say "to heck with it" and just buy a ATH-R70x. Folks claim they're like 650s, but with proper bass
Oct 6, 2021 0:53:47 GMT
lobalwarming: Or... buy from Jeff... $10 more vs many $100s more for the R70x. Not sure they have 'proper' bass - more similar to the 650s than not. And not nearly as smooth up top.
Oct 6, 2021 4:49:46 GMT
Mr Trev: IIRC when I was on Headphone Bar's site they had Dekoni pads on sale for the same price as stock Senns. I'd probably go that route before being gouged an extra $10 (honestly, how can foam and velour be worth $60 in the 1st place)
Oct 6, 2021 15:06:53 GMT
Mr Trev: I just don't know how well the sound change would go down for me
Oct 6, 2021 15:07:15 GMT
lobalwarming: With the supply chain issues... $62 for a little foam and fabric is cheap. BTW - my official Senn pads cost $64 in 2019. And well worth it. ;-)
Oct 6, 2021 22:43:08 GMT
lobalwarming: I have the Dekoni Elite Velours for the 650. Gives them a big 'proper' bass boost, so you might like them - didn't at the time, but was my anorexic tonal period. Mood and whims change - pad rolling is almost as much fun as tube rolling. For only more $$$
Oct 6, 2021 22:46:20 GMT
Mr Trev: My X2 fulfills my "bassy" needs, so I don't need to go there. I'm surprised the X2s don't get more love. They seem to straddle the "fun" and "audiophile" lines pretty well IMO
Oct 7, 2021 17:21:29 GMT
Mr Trev: One of the guys I chat with on HF strongly prefers the Dekonis over the stock pads. He seems to be the exception though, most impressions I've read aren't too positive. Except for comfort, Dekoni apparent wins that hands down.
Oct 7, 2021 17:24:10 GMT
Mr Trev: Happy Turkey Day Lobey - and any other Canadians looking in
Oct 11, 2021 15:28:22 GMT