It's weird that they're showing 9th June on the iplayer as it was broadcast on BBC 2 last night. Had it all set to record but due to a recording clash (that godawful 'talent' show was rescheduled at the last minute) I had to ditch it to watch the football.
I hadn't heard of Howard Goodall before but judging by the description and his background I thought the compositional stuff might appeal to you Ian.
Will give it a watch this week. Might have to dust off my monitors as I don't think the TV's speakers will do the music justice
I watched it and it was very enjoyable. Howard Goodall is more of a classical music guy (remember recording a series he did on the orchestra way back when - on VHS...). He goes more into the analysis of the record from the composition point of view (counterpoint, modes - aeolian etc.), but I learnt a bit from it (I just listen, not analyse, not having had much of a musical education beyond banging a tambourine in the first year of grammar school).
O.K. Last word on this from me. Have learned to live with the limiting. Have to don't we? Thought this video might be of interest. Also found this in the comments section from a rep at Abbey Road who spoke to the mastering person about the use of limiting, as people have been asking about it.
"Following a quick 5 minute word with Miles that I just had, he had the following to say about limiting on the release.
The version that is on all digital media is peak limited, but far from excessively, as the brief was to allow it to still breathe and not to slam the life out of it (around 2.4 dB on most songs, some considerably less than this). Around 2/3 of the way through mastering this album, a new and slightly nicer sounding limiter was acquired and the decision was taken to replace everything that had been done to that date using the newer limiter.
The limiting was done at the request of the artist, producer and mix engineer. They (Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia) have all heard and approved everything and given feedback. Before it was sent to the band, Giles Martin and Sam Okell gave their input, and towards the end of the process approval copies went to Apple Corps. If any of the band or their widows or the label had an issue with the audio which Giles, Sam or Miles could not resolve, this release would not have gone ahead. It is their record and this is how they all wanted it to be presented.
However, because vinyl records are a format which never quite sounds the same twice and given the near infinite choices of turntable, arm, cartridge and phono pre-amplifiers available, Miles made an executive decision to also capture the audio without limiting on a parallel stream in his workstation. This is something he regularly does on albums where he will be asked to cut vinyl masters. The logic being that full scale non-limited digital audio is already too loud to cut for an LP so why boost it further only to reduce even more?
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lobalwarming: Have a Senn HD540 Ref I 600 ohm - which some say is the best of the vintage
Sept 12, 2020 18:41:56 GMT
lobalwarming: A couple 540 Ref I 300 ohm models and a 540 Ref II 300 ohm - which some say is the best of the vintage
Sept 12, 2020 18:42:45 GMT
lobalwarming: All requiring re-padding, cleaning and restoration. Altho after 40 years... they don't need more rest
Sept 12, 2020 18:43:38 GMT
lobalwarming: One of the 300 ohm Ref Is from Germany in beautiful condition with pristine pads... but for
Sept 12, 2020 18:44:31 GMT
lobalwarming: the smell. Possibly the Hasselhoff Special Edition. Reeked of cheap hair care products.
Sept 12, 2020 18:45:17 GMT
lobalwarming: Those pads needed a couple nights in the kitchen sink with Dawn and Soapy Waters
Sept 12, 2020 18:46:15 GMT
ronzo56: Thanks!! Sounds like you had a lot of fun.
Sept 12, 2020 18:48:00 GMT
lobalwarming: Really enjoying the HD540 options... The best reference phone of the 80s. Sadly better than my 240DFs that I spent many a year with
Sept 12, 2020 19:29:09 GMT
lobalwarming: Also got a pair of Senn HD250 Linear IIs. Even after modding, don't compare to a good set of open phones. Funny... with a mind as closed as mine, would have thought closed phones would be a better match ;-)
Sept 12, 2020 19:30:40 GMT
ronzo56: Closed cans just never can compare to open backs. A few have come close, but the physics of closed backs limit them. But they are great to have when someone’s got the TV on in the next room.
Sept 12, 2020 21:48:30 GMT
lobalwarming: Not to invoke martial marital law... but can't the TV listener in the next room wear closed phones? Or better yet, learn to use the closed caption function. ;-)
Sept 12, 2020 23:40:11 GMT
Rabbit: Do you find the hd250 ‘hard’ sounding and steely? I did
Sept 13, 2020 7:21:41 GMT
Mr Trev: The earpads survived the washing? Even after all those years? I handwashed my Brainwavz pads. Not nearly as vintage. The foam got kinda mushy
Sept 13, 2020 15:52:32 GMT
Mr Trev: Them 540s do have a strong following on HF. The ref. II especially I think. The ones with the unobtainable hybrid pads anyways
Sept 13, 2020 15:54:19 GMT
lobalwarming: I find the HD250 hard, harsh, boxy and lumpy sounding. Very big U-shape. FU shape to my ears
Sept 13, 2020 18:29:13 GMT
lobalwarming: Earpads did survive the ritual cleaning. But not all of them, some required the ritual garbage-canning
Sept 13, 2020 18:30:13 GMT
Mr Trev: I initially read that as "ritual garbage-caning". Thought it seemed pretty harsh
Sept 16, 2020 17:51:01 GMT
lobalwarming: If you had inhaled the 'aroma' of those Hasselhoffian hair care product/headphone pads...well... caning might be too gentle a response
Sept 16, 2020 21:40:27 GMT
lobalwarming: Happily those pads did deodorize quite well after a night in the kitchen sink with Dawn.
Sept 16, 2020 21:41:40 GMT
Mr Trev: Well, at least they didn't reek of beastly BO, like in that Seinfeld episode
Sept 17, 2020 16:03:16 GMT