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Post by oldson on Nov 8, 2019 20:33:29 GMT
it appears microsoft are forcing my hand to upgrade from win 7, as they are ceasing to support it in the new year. i see there are home and pro versions of win 10 but have no idea what i should go for. ive seen prices for the win 10 home version ranging from £30 to £120. should i go for a download or disc version? similar for the pro version, wide price range. bit confused and any advice would be appreciated.
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Post by Mr Trev on Nov 9, 2019 0:14:13 GMT
First of all, check out this thread, supposedly it is still possible to "upgrade" for free: forum.notebookreview.com/threads/can-you-still-upgrade-7-to-10-for-free.829493/That said from my personal experience using Win.10, I'd say avoid it like the plague. The only thing stopping me from using Win.7 is a lack of drivers (and personally I don't think a lack of support for Win.7 is an issue at all). Microsoft has a really bad habit of pushing updates every month that are just as likely to break things as they are to fix them. Plus there is all the "features" Microsoft adds the most people don't want/need and are next to impossible to get rid of (example: Cortana - voice assistant/spyware, Windows Defender - if you prefer a 3rd party AV). Of course this is just my opinion, you may be quite happy with Win.10. I'd still say pay as little as you can get away with - hopefully the free upgrade will still work for you. I did purchase an online key to upgrade from Home to Pro for really cheap (~$15 CAD. if I remember right). It works perfectly fine, but these keys are considered grey market, so it's possible they could be blacklisted
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Post by Crispy on Nov 9, 2019 15:48:50 GMT
That said from my personal experience using Win.10, I'd say avoid it like the plague. The only thing stopping me from using Win.7 is a lack of drivers (and personally I don't think a lack of support for Win.7 is an issue at all). Microsoft has a really bad habit of pushing updates every month that are just as likely to break things as they are to fix them. Plus there is all the "features" Microsoft adds the most people don't want/need and are next to impossible to get rid of (example: Cortana - voice assistant/spyware, Windows Defender - if you prefer a 3rd party AV). Of course this is just my opinion, you may be quite happy with Win.10. I'd still say pay as little as you can get away with - hopefully the free upgrade will still work for you. I did purchase an online key to upgrade from Home to Pro for really cheap (~$15 CAD. if I remember right). It works perfectly fine, but these keys are considered grey market, so it's possible they could be blacklisted Simon I totally agree with Mr Trev, I am still using Windows 7 pro 64bit with no intention of upgrading until I am in the same situation such as Mr Trev when lack of drivers or something similar forces me to upgrade.
If you really need to upgrade to windows 10 PM me first - I do have a copy you can have for free.
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Post by Javier on Nov 9, 2019 16:42:49 GMT
I've been using W10 since it came out and see no issues whatsoever with it. I've installed it on quite a few PCs with different combinations of hardware and with a few exceptions (>8y old PCs) haven't had any trouble upgrading and even in those cases it was eventually done and have been functioning trouble free since. When W7 supports ends, any serious vulnerability found is going to be exploited inmmediately, just like it happened with XP or Vista and it can get very, very nasty. So even if one is a bit o the paranoid tin foil hat side I'd recommend upgrading since it can indeed be done for free and quite easily (https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10-upgrade/). I have recently used this method on an old laptop and verified it does work, it installed and activated itself with no probs whatsoever though I recommend a clean instal if only for the sake of increased performance. Just my 2c... PS. If anyone wants to upgrade but needs some help just drop me a PM
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Post by solderdude on Nov 9, 2019 17:23:18 GMT
An hour ago we tried to enter safe mode (wanted to delete some undeletable crap) and set it so it boot in safemode. Now .. it is stuck in a login screen which tells us 'something went wrong'. Seems like the only option is to re-install W10 ... grrrreat !
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Post by Crispy on Nov 9, 2019 18:21:20 GMT
I've been using W10 since it came out and see no issues whatsoever with it. The only issue I have with windows 10 is that you cannot turn off automatic updates? and as Mr Trev said, they can cause as much headaches as they fix. I recommend a clean instal if only for the sake of increased performance. I also would recommend a clean install rather than an upgrade, but make sure all your valubale data is backed up first
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Post by Crispy on Nov 9, 2019 18:32:57 GMT
An hour ago we tried to enter safe mode (wanted to delete some undeletable crap) and set it so it boot in safemode. Now .. it is stuck in a login screen which tells us 'something went wrong'. Seems like the only option is to re-install W10 ... grrrreat ! Unlucky Frans, if you have another computer or phone that you can get on the internet with, go on to YouTube and type in "something went wrong win 10" and there are some videos on how to correct the problem. Hope this helps?
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Post by Mr Trev on Nov 9, 2019 21:23:53 GMT
I've been using W10 since it came out and see no issues whatsoever with it. The only issue I have with windows 10 is that you cannot turn off automatic updates? and as Mr Trev said, they can cause as much headaches as they fix. I use Sledgehammer w/WUMT to control the update process. It can be found on Major Geeks. An hour ago we tried to enter safe mode (wanted to delete some undeletable crap) and set it so it boot in safemode. Now .. it is stuck in a login screen which tells us 'something went wrong'. Seems like the only option is to re-install W10 ... grrrreat ! Frans, If you have a bootable Win 10 USB handy <same thing you would use to install> you may want to try booting off that first and see if any of the repair functions work. Can you boot into safe mode or is that where the error happens? If you can get into safe mode maybe try running "sfc /scannow" from the command prompt (you might even be able to get to a command prompt from the USB repair functions)
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Post by solderdude on Nov 9, 2019 22:51:40 GMT
It was my sons gaming PC... Already fixed it by using a bootable USB stick with W10 on it and putting back a backup from a few months back. The saves from games we already backed up a few hours before we started experimenting. He got a few blue screens in the last couple of days so we had to see if it was hardware (PS or videocard) or a software or Windows issue.
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Post by Mr Trev on Nov 9, 2019 23:48:28 GMT
It was my sons gaming PC... Already fixed it by using a bootable USB stick with W10 on it and putting back a backup from a few months back. The saves from games we already backed up a few hours before we started experimenting. He got a few blue screens in the last couple of days so we had to see if it was hardware (PS or videocard) or a software or Windows issue. Glad to hear you got it sorted. With Win.10, backups are pretty much mandatory before you start screwing around. I've gotten into the habit of making a Macrium image of my system before I do any attempts at updates or major driver changes.
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Post by Javier on Nov 10, 2019 20:51:42 GMT
BSODs are mostly caused by bad drivers, I'd check that 1st. Maybe a recently updated driver?
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Post by oldson on Dec 29, 2019 18:28:56 GMT
im looking at ditching 7 for 10 in the next few weeks. i have 64 bit 7 at the moment but never understood the difference vs 32 bit. which version of win 10 (home) would you guys recommend?
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Post by Mr Trev on Dec 29, 2019 22:47:48 GMT
im looking at ditching 7 for 10 in the next few weeks. i have 64 bit 7 at the moment but never understood the difference vs 32 bit. which version of win 10 (home) would you guys recommend? The first question is how much RAM does your computer have? If it has more than 4GB then 64bit is pretty much mandatory. 32bit will still work, but you won't be able to use more the 4GB of the RAM. These days, I really can't see a reason for not using a 64bit version unless the computer is really old and has some hardware limitations. There are a lot of technical reasons that 64bit should be better, but I'll let people who are much smarter than me explain them.
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Post by oldson on Dec 31, 2019 17:44:45 GMT
im looking at ditching 7 for 10 in the next few weeks. i have 64 bit 7 at the moment but never understood the difference vs 32 bit. which version of win 10 (home) would you guys recommend? The first question is how much RAM does your computer have? If it has more than 4GB then 64bit is pretty much mandatory. 32bit will still work, but you won't be able to use more the 4GB of the RAM. These days, I really can't see a reason for not using a 64bit version unless the computer is really old and has some hardware limitations. There are a lot of technical reasons that 64bit should be better, but I'll let people who are much smarter than me explain them. cheers for that, 64 bit it is for me
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Post by Javier on Jan 1, 2020 8:35:55 GMT
cheers for that, 64 bit it is for me If your PC has 8GB or more of RAM or can be upgraded to that amount, then 64bit is indeed the way to go. Well chosen.
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