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Post by deadchip12 on Nov 19, 2019 4:34:31 GMT
Hi,
I currently own the fidelio x2hr and use it for immersive gaming/movies. Based on your reviews and measurements it looks like a very capable headphone, but I have seen other people who call it overhyped and low-resolution due to its lack of details, poor imaging etc. I actually consider upgrading to other more expensive and universally well-received headphones - after much research, I come up with two: hd660s and dt1990 pro. Do you think the upgrade make sense? Do those 2 headphone have much better clarity, details and imaging compared to the x2hr?
Thanks.
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Post by solderdude on Nov 30, 2019 23:29:04 GMT
I don't agree with people calling it overhyped and low resolution or they have a dud.
HD660S is very neutral, DT1990 with A pads is neutral but with hyped treble (can be fixed) When the X2HR works fine for you as it is I see no need to buy either headphone. The Beyer and Sennheiser do have spareparts available for many years, the Philips won't.
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Post by Mr Trev on Nov 30, 2019 23:39:22 GMT
I'll jump in quickly and point out that the Fidelio X3 is supposed to hit the market in January. Might be worth waiting around to see what the impressions on the new model are first
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Post by solderdude on Dec 1, 2019 10:47:12 GMT
Will most likely only be sold for the MSRP the first year or so. That means 3x more expensive than the X2HR I bought yet again a few days ago HOPING it will have decent channel matching. The previous 2 I tested both had L-R matching issues.
The X2 has replaceable pads (the X1 did not) but strangely enough one cannot order and spare parts (such as pads) and has to depend on aftermarket pads which will sound different most likely. It appears as though it isn't supported after one buys it.
Maybe someday someone sends one in for measurements then I'll know how the X3 sounds as well.
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Post by Mr Trev on Dec 1, 2019 21:10:42 GMT
Matching issues how? Total or certain freq.? On the HF thread somebody mentioned balance issues that were caused by the centre of the driver being caved in. Managed to fix it somehow (probably the same way you can fix a dented soft dome tweeter using gentle suction) I always though it was odd too that the X2 were designed with removable earpads, but you can't actually buy them.
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Post by solderdude on Dec 3, 2019 18:58:35 GMT
Channel imbalance in one of them but only below 1kHz (about 5dB !) The other one had one driver dropping off differently and sooner than the other one. Bought a 3rd one (hoping 3 is a charm) and will be receiving that one soon.
I saw nothing wrong with the drivers but since the drivers are completely covered with acoustic paper you cannot see the driver itself. To look at the drivers you have to disassemble it and unscrew the drivers.
I like the look and hope to get a good one and lower the bass response, when that is improved I expect the bass to tighten a bit more which is the only real complaint (along with the clamping force)
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 11, 2020 13:42:51 GMT
I have an X2 HR on the way so I will be able to compare it directly with the DT1990.
Heard one briefly before the lock down in a shop and they asked me to make a video for them. I do videos for a camera shop demonstrating different microphones that they sell and they are run on a loop in the shop. Then they either pay me the value of the mic or hive it to me!
I was hoping that this guy might do the same with headphones but this lock down might knock his business for six.
Anyway, I’ll post what differences I hear. (I also hope that I get a good one with regards to left/right balance!
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 15, 2020 9:56:20 GMT
I just received the Philips. On first impression, it has less of a sharp high sound in the treble and is smoother sounding. Bass seems very well portrayed. Maybe a little high for some but I quite like it. (Bass is also high on the dt1990, at least with the bassier pads. (Not the analytical ones)
The Philips seems pretty well balanced actually. No harshness and quite a warm sound without being muffled. The DT1990 sounds more ‘v’ shaped I think and the mids on these area little more balanced.
They clamp hard but hopefully that will ease off in time. They kind of remind me of the old AT headphones that I had.... not the 990 but one below. I forget the numbers. The pads are big and my ears easily fit inside and the imaging seems quite wide.
I hear that an X3 might be on the way, but actually these X2’s are pretty good if I’m honest and they’re currently selling at a good price. (Around £135 in the UK) The sound that you get suggests that they could be a more expensive headphone,
I don’t like the overly long cable covered in cloth. That’s gone and I’ve replaced it with a short one.
They’re a really good buy.
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Post by solderdude on Apr 15, 2020 12:54:01 GMT
this is how it measures stock. Below the DT1990 with Balanced pads for comparison. I modified my X2HR so it became as shown in the plot below
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 15, 2020 17:50:46 GMT
The Philips is a better headphone than I thought it would be. Looking at the plots, so much for the advertised 40khz. I guess they mean 40khz at -40dB! Still for £135 or so, it’s a great sounding headphone.
Actually, on the graph, it almost looks as though the Philips separates bass, mids and highs with a little dip between them. Quite a difference in price between them too!
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