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Post by tonyfly on Feb 5, 2020 9:11:07 GMT
Hi all, I need a new closed-back HP and I can't decide between these two models.
Source/amp: I listen mostly at work through a balanced DAC/amp (Yulong DA9). At the moment I use the 1more Triple Driver Over-Ear gold version.
Musical genres: classical (baroque in particular, from solo instrument or small ensemble to full orchestra, including vocal music), classic rock, folk, singer-songwriter, blues, country/country rock, americana, Irish/Scottish traditional music, jazz. NO: rap, hip-hop, electronic & derivative, metal & derivative, D&B. I prefer real instruments, no "synthetic" music.
Sound preferences: I can't stand a veiled or excessively laid-back sound. I've had distant sounding HPs, recessed and/or veiled and they were boring after some time. Slightly warmer side of neutral with some sub-bass rumble, no sucked-out mids and good clarity/detail is my preference. I like a front row seat presentation, I'm no soundstage maniac. My priority is instruments' timbre accuracy (or what I think it should be...).
What model fits better my (odd ) needs/tastes?
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Post by solderdude on Feb 5, 2020 12:03:53 GMT
The DT1770 doesn't isolate as well as the MSR7B.
Both headphones (DT 1770 Pro & ATH-MSR7b) cannot be used with an amplifier with XLR balanced out. They can only be used with TRS jacks.
DT1770 has a bit more 'body/grunt' but the MSR7b has more clarity. The DT1770 can be fitted with DT770 velourspads but becomes sibilant (which can be removed with a filter). I would say the MSR7b sounds a bit more balanced but 'thinner' in the bass. MSR7b is more on the analytical side, DT1770 is more on the enjoyable/smoother side of things.
Comfort differs. Also the velour pads last longer than the pleather pads. The pleather pads become more 'sticky/sweaty'.
Both are not veiled or laid-back sounding. DT1770 is leaning more toward 'warmer' and subbass rumble than the MSR7b.
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Post by tonyfly on Feb 5, 2020 13:07:23 GMT
The DT1770 doesn't isolate as well as the MSR7B. No problem. Quite quiet environment at work, I only need not to disturb my colleague. Both headphones (DT 1770 Pro & ATH-MSR7b) cannot be used with an amplifier with XLR balanced out. They can only be used with TRS jacks. My amp have unbalanced output too. I didn't mean I want to use them balanced, it's just a description of my gear. But I'm pretty sure that MSR7b can be used balanced with the right cable, like this one. Even though it's so easy to drive that it doesn't make sense probably. DT1770 has a bit more 'body/grunt' but the MSR7b has more clarity. The DT1770 can be fitted with DT770 velourspads but becomes sibilant (which can be removed with a filter). I would say the MSR7b sounds a bit more balanced but 'thinner' in the bass. MSR7b is more on the analytical side, DT1770 is more on the enjoyable/smoother side of things. Comfort differs. Also the velour pads last longer than the pleather pads. The pleather pads become more 'sticky/sweaty'. Both are not veiled or laid-back sounding. DT1770 is leaning more toward 'warmer' and subbass rumble than the MSR7b. I read your review of both HPs, with the proposed pads mod & filters. Very helpful! Do you think it's possible to add more body/sub-bass to the MSR7b ? EQ, filters, pads swap?
Thank you very much!
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Post by solderdude on Feb 6, 2020 20:56:24 GMT
Ah yes, the b version has a balanced cable. The one I measured (non b version) doesn't have that.
With EQ you can add more bass to the MSR7b. I don't know if it can be done passively with pads etc. Would need to experiment on it and don't own one.
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Post by tonyfly on Feb 9, 2020 15:03:25 GMT
I think I'll try the ATH MSR7b. I'll wait few days to see whether some bargain pops up.
Thanks again!
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