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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 21:41:22 GMT
is this really any better than foobar? i have read that jplay loads the selected track to ram and plays from there. if this is the main difference, how is this improving on using foobar with your library on an SS hard disc? Javier?
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Post by Javier on Jul 6, 2013 22:05:44 GMT
If you don't believe in magic or voodoo no, it is not better than Foobar. There is a trial version you can download and check yourself. Foobar can be setup to play from RAM just as JPlay and many other players including JRiver. In this guide you'll find how to configure it (at the end of the page): linkIn this link you can see it compared with other players: link
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 22:12:36 GMT
If you don't believe in magic or voodoo no, it is not better than Foobar. There is a trial version you can download and check yourself. Foobar can be setup to play from RAM just as JPlay and many other players including JRiver. In this guide you'll find how to configure it (at the end of the page): linkIn this link you can see it compared with other players: link had trouble with the trial download, basically my IS program would not let me install it. i already have ss hard discs so is there another benefit?
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Post by Javier on Jul 6, 2013 23:00:20 GMT
Objectively none whatsoever, subjectively some swear is the best player ever, specially those who don't know how digital or computers work. Personally I wouldn't install in my PC.
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Post by Javier on Jul 7, 2013 11:25:26 GMT
JRiver's say on JPlay: www.jriver.com/jplay.htmlA player that is different and can provide an objective difference is HQPlayer, not cheap but a very interesting player: HQPlayer
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 17:25:51 GMT
the only reason i even tried jplay was because JK seemed to swear buy it. i guess your advice would be stick to foobar?
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Post by Javier on Jul 7, 2013 20:14:53 GMT
Not really, each player has it strong points and its weaknesses.
I use many players like MusicBee, uLilith, JRiver, HQPlayer and, of course, Foobar in Windows and DeadBeef, Amarok, HQPlayer or MPD in Linux.
Foobar is without doubt the most flexible and powerful thanks to a miriad of available plugins though I'll admit it can be difficult to learn for non proficient PC users. JRiver is very powerful too, in some way even more than Foobar as it also plays movies, can be setup for multiple zones each with a different configuration, etc. HQPlayer has a hair shirt approach to a media player and provides a very simple GUI lacking the flexibility or eye candy of the others, it lacks some (to me) important features like playing CUE files or customizing information columns but has an incredibly powerful audio engine tweakable to the extreme audio wise (some digital knowledge required), contray to the rest of the players its aim is doing as much as possible in the PC instead of doing it the far less capable DAC chip.
DeadBeef is a fantastic player; fast, powerful and conenient but doesn't play DSD. When configured to output directly to ALSA, which should be setup for non resampling, it provide fantastic SQ. Amarok provides more eye candy but I don't quite like the playlist management it provides. MPD plus GMPC is an amazing combo in every way, love it to bits.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 21:06:27 GMT
i take it there is no limit to the number of players you can install and use. do they all play flac?
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Post by solderdude on Jul 7, 2013 21:22:56 GMT
Whatever happened to Winamp ?
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Post by Javier on Jul 7, 2013 21:29:33 GMT
Correct, you can install as many as you want. I prefer and recommend those that offer bit perfect output either through WASAPI or ASIO if using Windows or those than can output straight to ALSA under Linux, like any of those mentioned before can do but there are many others like XMPlay, AIMP, MediaMonkey, Winamp and quite a long list more. Most are free, some are reasonably priced like JRiver (49$) and some are quite expensive like HQPlayer at 142€!!!
FLAC is a "de facto" standard so I'd say 99.999% of the media players can reproduce it, certainly all I mentioned.
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Post by Javier on Jul 7, 2013 21:37:46 GMT
Whatever happened to Winamp ? Nothing AFAIK, it is still available and also has plenty of plugins to play with. Also available for Android and Mac.
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Post by Rabbit on Jul 7, 2013 21:40:33 GMT
Can anyone hear any audible differences between players that are bit perfect? I know some more 'subjective based' people claiming to hear differences between players although they have no real proof other than reports. We don't want to be too closed minded about it!! Does anyone hear differences between players? Or is it just a question of useful functions being more important? For me, I'd like a really good eq.
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Post by Javier on Jul 7, 2013 22:03:48 GMT
Does anyone hear differences between players? When configured for bit perfect, I hear no difference whatsoever.
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Post by Rabbit on Jul 7, 2013 22:23:01 GMT
This is always a topic that gets gets the more subjective people so angry. It would seem more useful to get the proof of differences, but so far, no one has provided any. Lots of surmising and anecdotal stuff with references to others but no concrete proof of differences.
Kind of difficult to discuss with that in mind I guess and best to choose what you think would suit your purpose best.
Best refer people to the land of magic and belief where they can all get angry together!!
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Post by Rabbit on Jul 9, 2013 14:05:05 GMT
I'm reading on another site that;
'Jplay makes it's usability, off other companies application software and hard work with an unknown configuration script for setup. Jplay also charges more than twice the price for the privilege.'
Sounds like it's a programme that uses another programme and puts itself over the top like an interface?
Really?
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