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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 19:45:57 GMT
does a pc based music system really have to be this hard?
basically in my library i have flacs ripped from cd's mainly. i also have one album download from hdtracks @ 24/192
both normally play fine from foobar, providing i have no over sampling selected on my dac.
tonight when i tried to play one of the hires tracks i had sound for about 3 seconds then nothing, although foobar appeared to be still playing. i then select another lo-res track and i get the "un-recoverable playback" error message from foobar. foobar then repeats same message for each track i select.
i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling my hiface2 driver, but then the same problem repeated.
the only things that have been installed recently (yesterday actually) are a new monitor (with usb hub) and a new gaming keyboard.
anyone have any advice? thanks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 20:39:38 GMT
the plot thickens
during the many system reboots i have had to do this evening, i noticed that AGAIN the hiface 2 is not always recognised on startup. getting fed up with getting on my knees to un-plug and re-plug the hiface 2 in the back of the computer, i thought why not plug into the hub on my new monitor, just to make things easier? i did this and everything is working correctly again. the hiface2 was plugged into a short male>female extension lead. could it possibly be this lead that has been causing the problem?
i am totally confused by this
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Post by solderdude on Sept 11, 2013 21:07:21 GMT
I am no computer expert at all but the fact there now is a hub in the path and the PC sees the hub before the hi-face might have something to do with it.
I think is is more likely the hub ensures the proper start-up timing than a USB lead giving trouble. USB speeds are rather low so cables would have no problems with it. For USB-3.0 things are different.
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Post by clausdk on Sept 11, 2013 22:58:30 GMT
If your Gaming keyboard has a soundcard in it, it can make your PC confused, I had a custumer who had lots of trouble with a DAC I sold him, we had a hard time figuring out what the problem was, but after several weeks it turned out to be the keyboard that was the problem.. The simple solution was to: NOT plug in the DAC at startup, but connect it later..
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Post by Javier on Sept 12, 2013 7:57:55 GMT
It'll be easy to determine if it was the extensión cable by either using a different one or plugin the HiFace straight into a USB port. Also, the extra power provided by the hub could have helped.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 9:57:46 GMT
It'll be easy to determine if it was the extensión cable by either using a different one or plugin the HiFace straight into a USB port. Also, the extra power provided by the hub could have helped. not quite that simple i'm afraid. the start-up problem is so intermittent that it will sometimes be fine for a couple of weeks. i kind of accept that issue now. my main reason for the original post was the playback issue of my hi-res files via foobar, causing foobar or my hiface2 (or whatever) to stop working until pc is re-booted. but even this seems to be ok now when using my monitor's hub.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 10:03:23 GMT
If your Gaming keyboard has a soundcard in it, it can make your PC confused, I had a custumer who had lots of trouble with a DAC I sold him, we had a hard time figuring out what the problem was, but after several weeks it turned out to be the keyboard that was the problem.. The simple solution was to: NOT plug in the DAC at startup, but connect it later.. i doubt whether there is a sound card in the keyboard as there is no audio outputs on it. i know what you mean though, as i have seen some like that on the market. it does however have volume control and basic playback function keys.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 10:05:09 GMT
I am no computer expert at all but the fact there now is a hub in the path and the PC sees the hub before the hi-face might have something to do with it. I think is is more likely the hub ensures the proper start-up timing than a USB lead giving trouble. USB speeds are rather low so cables would have no problems with it. For USB-3.0 things are different. would there likely be a benefit from using usb3 as oppose to 2?
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Post by solderdude on Sept 12, 2013 11:04:33 GMT
I am no computer expert at all but the fact there now is a hub in the path and the PC sees the hub before the hi-face might have something to do with it. I think is is more likely the hub ensures the proper start-up timing than a USB lead giving trouble. USB speeds are rather low so cables would have no problems with it. For USB-3.0 things are different. would there likely be a benefit from using usb3 as oppose to 2? USB3.0 and USB3.1 are MUCH faster, but you do not need to go faster than USB 2.0 (high speed 480Mb/s) as there are really not much formats over 382/32 I suspect, these high bitrates as well as DSD128 is possible via USB 2.0 (high speed) with a set of drivers. USB doesn't break into sweat with these speeds. Also USB3.0 can deliver more current (900mA) while the USB2.0 is spec'd for 500mA Some USB ports can deliver more than 500mA though and others less. Javier could well be right about the needed output current, although I do not expect the hi-face to draw much current. a hub that is connected to an external power supply (inside the monitor) may be more powerful than a normal USB port. Of course some will claim USB3.0 will sound better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 13:14:13 GMT
then of course i could get a gold plated diamond encrusted usb3 cable
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Post by solderdude on Sept 12, 2013 13:28:06 GMT
don't forget to use a real silk braided sleeve around it, otherwise there can be no silky highs. Of course a cheapskate may simply want to wrap some velours material around the cable to get a 'velvetty' sound which is almost as good as 'silky.
b.t.w. you need to update the wishlist as that seems to be fulfilled. > wishlist = Project Ember <
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 16:50:37 GMT
don't forget to use a real silk braided sleeve around it, otherwise there can be no silky highs. Of course a cheapskate may simply want to wrap some velours material around the cable to get a 'velvetty' sound which is almost as good as 'silky. b.t.w. you need to update the wishlist as that seems to be fulfilled. > wishlist = Project Ember < would'nt a flat cable give a flat response?
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 12, 2013 17:39:34 GMT
I think I get 'computer rage'. My notebook has been playing up for a while, so in a rage, I broke it in half so the screen was detached from the body.
It was SO satisfying.
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