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Post by Rabbit on May 1, 2015 17:19:25 GMT
Why aren't you plugging the blue lead directly into the back of the Micro?
I'm presuming the player is set up correctly? If your pc is like mine, it can't cope with big DSD stuff and I get clicking, but that the computer having a nervous breakdown. The processor isn't fast enough.
Hang on... I just had a look, you have the digital going in via blue lead and taking digital out via coax to the StageDAC? What for?
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Post by oldson on May 1, 2015 17:24:42 GMT
Why aren't you plugging the blue lead directly into the back of the Micro? i am mate. i probably did not explain myself that well. blue usb from pc to micro, then digital out (coax not toslink) to my Meier Stagedac. so using the ifi as nothing more than a usb to spdif converter. this is when i get the noise. if i use the ifi as a dac, then no noise. |
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Post by Rabbit on May 1, 2015 17:28:45 GMT
Oh sorry. I see what you're doing. I think we need Javier because I'm not certain about the conversion. I reckon it has to be something to do with conversion if the Micro itself is silent.
Why are you converting it?
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Post by oldson on May 1, 2015 17:38:11 GMT
i wanted to compare it this way with my Beresford Asynch1 converter.
i now have it connected to the Ember via rca, so i can AB test quickly from ifi to Ember.(no noise)
to me like this the ifi sounds slightly leaner than the Ember, even with xbass enabled.
both immensely enjoyable.
at the moment i am using foobar to upscale everything to 24/192.
maybe later i will install hqplayer and try the dsd upscale.
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Post by oldson on May 1, 2015 17:41:41 GMT
oh i forgot to mention, i am using a usb psu with splitter cable so no 5v supply from pc, just data.
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Post by Rabbit on May 1, 2015 17:45:10 GMT
It is leaner than the Ember in sound. The Xbass may need to be switched in via the switch on the bottom. Direct/Preamp. I was playing around with mine connected to the SeNNator yesterday and I seem to remember that the 3d effect switch only works on one of those positions so XBass may be the same.
Also, turn the 3d off since that does make the sound a bit sharper if you find it too lean. Also try the digital filters on the side. Bit perfect/standard/something else I can't remember.
Xbass is very subtle tbh. I find it quite difficult to detect!!
With HQ Player, DSD can make it go daft. My computer isn't up to the highest resolution so you need to be careful with the settings if your computer is like mine!! Again, Javier knows the problem since he set mine up for me and at one point the audio was spitting/ticking because the rate was set too high for my processor.
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Post by oldson on May 1, 2015 19:11:14 GMT
You will need a pc with a good CPU to get the best results from the filtering options available on DSD from the HQPlayer. Noise from the Amp side of your micro would indicate a bad connection to me ...unless there is a fault on the internals somewhere. Mick. i think my pc will be up to it!? i5 running at 3.4 ghz with 8gb ram. the noise is not from the amp side of the micro, only when using digital output. i probably wont end up using it in that way, anyhow. seems fine in every other way. i suppose if i wanted another usb to spdif converter, i should have gone for the "i-link". |
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Post by Javier on May 1, 2015 20:36:32 GMT
Simon, your PC should be up to the task to upsample to at least DSD128 if not DSD256 in HQPlayer. If you need any help just PM me.
What I don't get is why you would want to stick to SPDIF with the micro when it has been designed with USB in mind and the SPDIF is there only as an "aux" input. Well designed USB is techinically (much) better than SPDIF as there is no mux/demux and XOs used are way better.
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Post by oldson on May 1, 2015 20:46:32 GMT
Simon, your PC should be up to the task to upsample to at least DSD128 if not DSD256 in HQPlayer. If you need any help just PM me. What I don't get is why you would want to stick to SPDIF with the micro when it has been designed with USB in mind and the SPDIF is there only as an "aux" input. Well designed USB is techinically (much) better than SPDIF as there is no mux/demux and XOs used are way better. Hi Javier, i was using the spdif as an output! purely to see how the ifi compared to my current usb/spdif converter into my current dac. i have started to play with hqplayer. i confess that i am useless at reading instructions! i prefer the "suck it and see" approach!  i have got it working and it sounds good , but i have no clue on the settings. i must have got something right , as the led on the ifi glows cyan, indicating dsd 64/128. i could do with a "complete idiots" guide to the optimum settings.  cheers |
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Post by oldson on May 3, 2015 18:53:23 GMT
Ian/Mick
can i ask what dsd levels you have achieved into the micro?
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Post by Rabbit on May 3, 2015 19:08:19 GMT
Off hand Simon, I'm not sure. My pc isn't good enough to run at the highest dsd levels. Mick's is. I basically go down two levels down from the highest offered and then it works fine. I have to do this every time I start the programme. It doesn't remember the setting that I set.
Just start at the highest and go down a level to see what it sounds like. It magically starts to play when you get to a point that the pc can cope with.
It sounds absolutely amazing then.
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Post by oldson on May 3, 2015 19:29:15 GMT
i am finding the program continuously locks out if you keep mucking about with the settings.
then settings that did work previously, dont!
then after a time the ifi throws the towel in.
ie the led glows white (not listed in the instructions). after this nothing works ,not even foobar.
everything comes back if i un-plug and re-connect the ifi.
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Post by oldson on May 3, 2015 20:13:14 GMT
thanks for that Mick.
i will give those settings a try later.
can i ask what the spec of your pc is?
and what colour your ifi led is when playing?
cheers mate,
Simon
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Post by oldson on May 3, 2015 20:36:28 GMT
just tried your settings and they worked perfectly well. ifi led showing cyan. tried upping as you suggested..... poly-sinc-mp-2s with DSD5v2 256+fs works at bit rate 11289600, ifi led glows blue now. tried poly-sinc-mp, but nothing played. have not tried upping the bitrate. as i now have a blue led on the ifi, i assume i am playing dsd256. dont know if it sounds any better but i feel a sense of achievement. thanks Mick |
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Post by oldson on May 3, 2015 20:39:23 GMT
this is odd.
just noticed the speaker logo on my widows task bar has a red cross in it!!!
but music is still playing.
now i am confused.
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