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Post by psych0 on Apr 21, 2016 15:25:03 GMT
Any idea when the Superlux HD662-EVO will be available in the states? I would guess May, but the easiest thing you can do is to contact Superlux directly on their website. They should know exact dates and retailers. I've always received answers from them within 24 hours. Also, I've just ordered mine...can't wait
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Post by timjthomas on Apr 21, 2016 17:31:12 GMT
I've emailed both Avlex (US Distributer for Superlux) as well as Superlux in Taiwan. No response yet from Superlux, but Avlex did respond and stated that there are no plans to bring the HD662-EVO to the US.
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Post by Crispy on Apr 21, 2016 19:58:49 GMT
I've flown in a lot of planes with headphones, Chris and really, noise cancelling ones are the way to go. Although closed headphones do isolate, unfortunately, bass frequencies never really get stopped at all well so you are normally very aware of the rumble. If tou don't mind consistent rumble, then closed are ok, but you might need them to be quite loud. Another thing that I have found in some aircraft is that bass response becomes thin. Therefore the rumble is more annoying. Probably something to do with air pressure. I use noise cancelling on planes but closed headphones elsewhere. Cheap noise cancelling though are a waste of money. Poor sound and hiss a problem. Thanks for that Ian, I think at £25 I may have to give them a go, surely if the volume is turned up a tad too much it will drown out the noise? Not too bothered about bass response only looking to pass 3-4 hours away and not listening too critically If cheap noise cancelling headphones are crap then the superlux is worth a try I can then also use them at home for a proper listen, and use my earbuds on the beach.
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 21, 2016 20:20:04 GMT
Yes, if you turn up, it'll take out the noise. I used headphones on planes quite a lot and I did find that some seemed to lose their bass response up there. Maybe air pressure? Then you want them even louder, which isn't good for long periods.
Cheap noise cancellers hiss and the sound can be thin as well. However, they take the bass frequencies out of the jet noise so you can actually listen at lower volume. I'd say the best is probably a Bose. I use a Sennheiser pcx450. Had it a long time just for flying. Since they came out actually. I'd prefer a Bose QC25 because it has a healthy bass response with the circuits switched in, but it's a lot of money. I hate paying big money for headphones tbh.
I've ordered a Superlux and now I'm glad if Frans rates it alongside a dt990!!
I have a 10 hour flight coming up and I'll need to take something with me for 20 hours of flying plus a couple of short internal flights. So, about 24 hours listening in all which isn't good at high volumes. Plus casual listening maybe at roadsides....
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Post by timjthomas on Apr 21, 2016 20:59:22 GMT
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Post by Crispy on Apr 23, 2016 17:38:40 GMT
Yes, if tou turn up, it'll take out the noise. I used headphones on planes quite a lot and I did find that some seemed to lose their bass response up there. Maybe air pressure? Then you want them even louder, which isn't good for long periods. Cheap noise cancellers hiss and the sound can be thin as well. However, they take the bass frequencies ouqt of the jet noise so you can actually listen at lower volume. I'd say the best is probably a Bose. I use a Sennheiser pcx450. Had it a long time just for flying. Since they came out actually. I'd prefer a Bose QC25 because it has a healthy bass response with the circuits switched in, but it's a lot of momey. I hate paying big money for headphones tbh. I've ordered a Superlux and now I'm glad if Frans rates it alongside a dt990!! I have a 10 hour flight coming up and I'll need to take something with me for 20 hours of flying plus a couple of short internal flights. So, about 24 hours listening in all which isn't good at high volumes. Plus casual listening maybe at roadsides.... Thanks Ian, I now have a suggestion which will probably NOT work? Frans will tell us. I would like to know if a noise cancelling filter can be made for the Kamelon? If so that would be my ideal solution - build a Kamelon with a noise cancelling filter and use the modded Suplerlux for flight purposes, problem solved? sounds easy eh
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 23, 2016 18:40:40 GMT
Noise cancelling needs a microphone on the outside of the device. It hears the noise and the circuitry puts the opposit wave form into the cups and so the noise is in effect back to zero. In reality, it doesn't go back to zero but the effect is really dramatic on a plane.
It would be really good to have a device that could apply an opposite wave form to what you hear since then, you could use any headphone but it's not really practical.
I think the best noise cancelling headphones have a quieter circuit, so less hiss is introduced. The other thing is how we hear up there in a plane. For me, bass gets a bit thin which is why the Senn can be problematic. It's not a fat sounding headphone to start with and take it up and it can go even thinner. The Bose has a bit too much bass, but that helps in a plane.
I liked the Bose a lot. Didn't like the build but soundwise, I thought it was really built for the job. Senn is more purist and less fun. It has a talk through though which is handy when the wife is sitting next to you. You press a button on the side and the outside mic feeds sound into your headphone.
I prefer the pcx450 with the circuit switch out. It's a bit beefier in the bass. It does well then by the roadside or in less noisy situations but the circuit is brilliant in a plane. I'll be taking mine with me since I'll be doing a lot of flying. They can also be used without the cable to cut noise out when walking out to a plane on the runway. I'll be on some little buzzy ones and they will probably leave the engines turning as we get on. That can be terribly noisy, so I stick them on my head.
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Post by solderdude on Apr 23, 2016 19:46:58 GMT
How do these compare with the Philips cityscape? The HD662 EVO is more 'forward', slightly more 'dynamic' and has a fair bit more clarity. Also more pronounced yet not sibilant treble. Sounds more extended in the treble. It is also playing slightly louder. A bit more 'fun' and engaging. The Philips is more 'laid back' and 'warmer' sounding. It is a more relaxing listen. Outside noises are attenuated slightly better. Clamping force is slightly higher as well. The cable is lower in microphony. Comfort is about the same.
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Post by Crispy on Apr 26, 2016 8:20:46 GMT
How do these compare with the Philips cityscape? The HD662 EVO is more 'forward', slightly more 'dynamic' and has a fair bit more clarity. Also more pronounced yet not sibilant treble. Sounds more extended in the treble. It is also playing slightly louder. A bit more 'fun' and engaging. The Philips is more 'laid back' and 'warmer' sounding. It is a more relaxing listen. Outside noises are attenuated slightly better. Clamping force is slightly higher as well. The cable is lower in microphony. Comfort is about the same. Thanks Frans, they sound like the sort of headphone for my plane journeys (more fun sounding) I will just turn up the vol a bit to block out the engines noise. They cant be any worse than my ear-buds at the moment?
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Post by timjthomas on Apr 26, 2016 9:11:16 GMT
Quick question regarding the tape. I assume any kind of tape will work -- e.g., masking, packing, duct?
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 26, 2016 9:38:34 GMT
Yes, as long as it stays down. I use black electrical tape which barely shows.
It just blocks vents and stops airflow so that internal pressures are slightly altered. This affects how you hear the bass.
Same trick works really well on the Fostex T50
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Post by musicfreak on May 2, 2016 18:41:08 GMT
It comes with pleather pads fitted. The velours ones are included in the box though. The pleather is much softer than the original HD681 pads. They are the same as the HD681-EVO pleather pads. Nice that Superlux includes the velours pads with the HD-662 EVO too. Hopefully Thomann will ship this version too, because Thomann dind't mention it on the product page. They do however for the HD-681 EVO. If I understand you correctly the 681 EVO pads fill also fit on the 662 EVO? If you, I can buy a spare 681 (EVO) velours set for use on the 662 EVO.
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Post by solderdude on May 2, 2016 19:25:24 GMT
The HD662-EVO I got had velours pads included in the box, pleather pads were fitted. There were also 2 different lengths of cable included + 6.3 mm adapter.
The pads from the HD681-EVO are the same as the ones on this one.
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Post by Rabbit on May 2, 2016 20:00:15 GMT
The HD-662 EVO is in stock at Thomann now so hopefully, they'll be going out soon.
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Post by timjthomas on May 2, 2016 21:21:20 GMT
Does one pad perform "better" than the other?
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