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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 16:16:18 GMT
No, the damage was worse. The actual enclosure just shattered at one corner. It wasn't a catastrophic failure and I couldn't hear any sonic imbalance but I just couldn't live with it any more. I'm now seriously looking for a closed-back, easy to drive headphone that has the basic sonic traits of the HD 650 (or as close as I can get). The easy to drive part is important though. I don't want to buy a portable amp too. It must be well driven by my Sansa Clip+ on it's own.
Maybe a new thread?
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Post by Rabbit on Nov 25, 2016 16:35:17 GMT
Probably a good idea. Difficult one though. I've been looking for a long time for a very sensitive closed headphone with a smooth top end and so far, I've only found two ... m100 and Momentum.
The Trinity Audio iems are extremely good but I know that many don't like them in their ears. I tend to use them when out and about. At least with them, the amounts of bass are actually tuneable.
M100 has a bigger bass and is more sensitive, but I do enjoy the richness of the m100 more than the Momentum, I think. Kind of like a guilty pleasure .... I know it's not a neutral type of sound but I do really like it.
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Post by jello on Nov 25, 2016 16:41:08 GMT
The closest I've heard a closed back get to the HD650 sig wise is probably the Focal Spirit Classic. HD650 has better transparency and timbre but both are smooth sounding, a touch mid bassy and have extended but not in your face treble. The one area the FSC has the edge is that there isn't much of a roll off at the low end. Should say that I didn't do a direct comparison but did with the HD600 and I recall saying to a friend that if Sennheiser released a HD625 that's probably be how it'd be tuned I'm not great at interpreting plots but have linked to Tyll's for both HD650 and FSC . To my untrained eyes I think the FR's look quite similar... Comfort isn't a strong point of the Focal as it is designed for French 'nomads' who I presume must have very small ears! Much like the original Momentum 'over ear' they are a very tight squeeze if you want to wear them over ear. I could just about get away with it but your ears did feel like someone had pulled them quite hard after an hour or two. But if you are willing to accept they are an on-ear and wear accordingly they are not so bad and seal didn't seem to be affected much. Probably not selling them to you eh?? But best to be aware of these things as paid reviewers often neglect to mention them Edit: sorry Ian. Was typing this when you posted. If you wouldn't mind leaving this I'll copy & paste, then delete, if Gordon does create a new thread. Leave this thread for M100 talk.
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Post by Rabbit on Nov 25, 2016 16:47:43 GMT
Oh yes, I forgot the Focals. I have a pair upstairs. Tight on head and squished ears stopped me using them. Very nice sound though.
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Post by jello on Nov 25, 2016 16:52:59 GMT
Do you have the Classics too Ian? Remember you saying you had the Pro before.
Classic possibly has less clamp but squished ear syndrome applies to both. Both very similar sounding but the Classic has a bit of a mid bass bump which warms the sound up a touch and also seems to give the impression of less treble. Suspect there is just as much but like the Trinity filters its all about how your brain interprets it.
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Post by Rabbit on Nov 25, 2016 17:11:28 GMT
Yes, I have the Pros. Crikey, you have a good memory, Mark. At the time, I felt the warmth of the Classic might be too much. I found the clamping down a bit strong with the relatively hard pads but the sound is very good and as you say, close to Senn as well.
I was just thinking Gordon.... Val does a warranty thing to get you a cheap Vmoda replacement, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 18:29:03 GMT
I gave them to a boy who will never be able to function fully in society. He does like good ****in' music though.
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Post by solderdude on Jul 8, 2017 19:17:08 GMT
Measurements and my views on the crossfade M100. I did not listen to them though, not even put them on my head so the sound descriptions may be wrong. The next time I will visit that shop I will re-measure some headphones and maybe add 1 or 2 headphones and plan to listen to all of them and write down impressions. Here is the M100 page: diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/v-moda/crossfade-m100/
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Post by solderdude on Jul 9, 2017 8:33:48 GMT
Those looking for a wireless (bluetooth aptX) version and at the same time enjoy the XL memory foam pads, a smidgeon less boosted bass (still delightfully high amount of power bass), a tad more clarity and slightly improved treble and don't mind paying E 100.- more than the crossfade II wireless may be a good option. It would appear as only the 'rose-gold' version has aptX, the other colours seem to lack the aptX feature. The sound quality with aptX (the transmitter has to have this feature as well of course) seems to be somewhat better. I don't use BT myself so don't really know.
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Post by Rabbit on Jul 9, 2017 10:29:21 GMT
Well, the wired ones do have a lot of bass, that's for sure. They also seem to be very sensitive and go loud at low volume adjustments. While I enjoy mine with the XL pads a lot and they certainly look the business with a nice coloured plate on the cup sides, they do lack some clarity for serious listening. For me, the mids seem a little recessed which encourages you to turn up loud so the head banging bass takes over on some material.
I like the m100 for wandering around where that bass helps give the impression of a better sound outdoors (don't ask me why that is - it just seems to work) but for a good seal and clarity, the AT MSR7 seems pretty good to me in spite of its own set of faults in the treble and lack of that really deep bass.
Closed portable is a difficult choice really. They all seem to have their quirks.
The m100 can change out cables on either side which is quite nice. It's customisable with faceplates and the XL pads can help with comfort, although they do change the sound a bit I think. To me, the mids seem to recess a little more.
There's also an option of two mono inputs on both sides which apparently sounds better. Not sure that's true though.
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