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Post by jello on Feb 7, 2017 17:03:33 GMT
So I have just received quite a convincing e-mail from Amazon invoicing me for payment. Money to be sent by IBAN to an Italian bank account. Almost immediately afterwards I received a follow up e-mail from the seller. The timing is so close you could almost be forgiven for thinking they were sent by the same person...you cynical sausages Of course by this time I start to smell a rat. The cups are red!! I wanted green!!
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Post by jello on Feb 7, 2017 17:14:49 GMT
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Post by Rabbit on Feb 7, 2017 17:20:14 GMT
Blimey Mark. There was me thinking how laid back you are. Scammers, whether via the internet or via the phone are absolute scum. They target people. The headphone one is aimed at enthusiasts who know the real prices and so get attracted and the phone people look for people who are easily frightened. Since I mentioned 'flying pigs', mine hasn't returned. Must be a pork thing. Me ought to start a new campaign ..... 'Scam the Scum'.
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Post by jello on Feb 7, 2017 18:04:01 GMT
Nah, I'm quite laid back really. It's only real life stuff like getting the wee guy to school on time (he's a heel dragger) that gets me in a lather!! Was just curious to see how they pull it off. Quite simple really but guessing they must use scripts to mass load inventory because every hacked account is loaded with the same desirable items. If they weren't doing this they'd likely be sitting with degrees in psychology because they have a very good understanding of what makes us tick and how they can exploit that to their advantage. But I think what separates them from the rest of us is morals and a conscience...most of us have them. They don't. I couldn't sleep at night if I did what they do. It would be good to turn the tables on them but I think the most we can do is waste their time and tip others off. One less person scammed is a small victory I suppose. ps. the flying pigs are on stand by.
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Post by jello on Feb 8, 2017 12:05:20 GMT
They went a bit quiet so thought I'd pushed it too far with the colour thing. So decided to gee them up:
Good news it seems they can do them in green!!:
The pigs are warming up:
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Post by Rabbit on Feb 8, 2017 12:16:16 GMT
I want one!!! A green th900? You could get a sprayed one I guess. Not so much a grey import, but a green one.
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Post by jello on Feb 8, 2017 13:17:18 GMT
I know. I was surprised as you Ian!! I wonder how much the green paint will change them sonically? It's well known that different colours have different psychological properties but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that this can have an influence at an audible or mechanical level. Just take a look at these descriptions and if red doesn't describe the TH-900 to a tee I don't know what does!! Red - Its effect is physical; it stimulates us and raises the pulse rate, giving the impression that time is passing faster than it is. It relates to the masculine principle and can activate the "fight or flight" instinct. Red is strong, and very basic. Pure red is the simplest colour, with no subtlety. It is stimulating and lively, very friendly. At the same time, it can be perceived as demanding and aggressive.
Green - Being in the centre of the spectrum, it is the colour of balance - a more important concept than many people realise. When the world about us contains plenty of green, this indicates the presence of water, and little danger of famine, so we are reassured by green, on a primitive level. Negatively, it can indicate stagnation and, incorrectly used, will be perceived as being too bland.
So I think it is fair to assume that the green TH-900 will be far more balanced, if a little wet sounding, without the thunderous bass or treble aggression. But may in turn appear a bit boring in direct comparison. Audiophiles the world over will no doubt rejoice when they hear this
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Post by Mr Trev on Feb 8, 2017 18:50:14 GMT
It just boggles my mind at how these scams keep popping up on Amazon. There's always sellers with "256 GB microSD" for $20. Now these sellers asking for contact outside of Amazon. Doesn't Amazon even bother to check listings before they go live. A while back I was talking with a seller regarding some earpads (earzonk). He mentioned that he couldn't ship internationally until he got approval from Amazon to do it. If they have to vet a legit dealer that much, how on earth do those idiots get listings.
And seriously, everybody knows purple is the colour to get, because, PURPLE!
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Post by Rabbit on Feb 8, 2017 19:35:24 GMT
Yes. Purple Rains.
'Purple rain, purple rain .......'
Actually, Mark has made me very nervous of Amazon now!!
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Post by jello on Feb 8, 2017 21:30:39 GMT
On the upside think of all the money you will save Ian At least for now the scam listings are fairly easy to spot. Just a case of always paying through Amazon, buying direct from Amazon or very legit looking sellers and following the old adage about something looking to be good to be true. With the exception of items sold by Amazon which at times seem to have logic defying prices. Clearly people do fall for this scam though and it is very lucrative: www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/beatthescammers/article-4131784/Couple-lose-3k-bogus-Amazon-Marketplace-sellers.htmlWhat surprises me after having a google is that it's been going on for at least a couple of years. I could understand if it'd been a matter of months but you'd think an organisation as big as Amazon would have put a stop to it long before now. It's not like they are short of resources or shy at protecting their business interests. Particularly when they are losing sellers and potential revenue. I also noticed a few listings from new sellers the other day that didn't have the 'contact us before buying' wording in the description. I wondered how their scam works and this article gives a good explanation: www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/01/02/amazon-scams-on-the-rise-in-2017-as-fraudulent-sellers-run-amok-and-profit-big/#26cfba171eebI liked this comment from a blogger who tested the waters with one of the 'contact us' scammers and then reported them to Amazon: "Dealing with Amazon in this regard is kind of like talking with children who speak another language, and who also happen to be watching TV or something as you speak to them". I know the feeling only too well and it makes me think that my kids might be well suited to careers with Amazon
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Post by ronzo56 on Feb 9, 2017 1:03:37 GMT
I just read the article. I had a problem recently with a frying pan I ordered with an Amazon Prime shipping logo. I ordered it. Received an email telling me it would arrive in two days. Two days later another email that it wouldn't arrive until the next week. A week later another saying it wouldn't arrive until February 3rd. I ordered it January 17th. I decided something wasn't right and cancelled the order. Found the same pan same price that day on a Warehouse deal, fulfillment by Amazon. Got it two days later.
I won't be ordering anything from any 3rd party vendors again. Amazon better get a handle on this thing quickly. People's trust can evaporate quickly.
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Post by sekar on Mar 12, 2017 13:31:53 GMT
Strictly say I suppose this kind of cheating to be specific for Russia but ... who knows. Immediately after you had posted your advertising on the well known board you get on to your smartphone SMS message with text ( some possible variations may take place ) : Could you accept some exchage - take a look at : "_site_address_" . If you activate the link the hackware as root application will be immediately installed to your smartphone . If your smartphone has connection to the mobile bank application it leads to really bad results. There is no really easy way to remove malware application having been loaded and installed. One but effective way to avoid this kind of phone swindling is to use the old simple mobile phone - not a Smartphone for this kind of your activity !
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Post by Rabbit on Mar 12, 2017 13:46:27 GMT
Same the world over I think. Not specific to Russia.
Everywhere you go, there's someone trying to pull a fast one. I absolutely hate being contacted by them on my home phone though. That's really cheeky!!
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Post by jello on Mar 12, 2017 14:57:42 GMT
I think so. But now that we live in a connected world dishonesty is a lot more lucrative. I'm starting to think the only way to avoid getting scammed is to go and live in a cabin in the woods. But not one that was bought on Amazon I don't like phone scammers either Ian. For some reason it feels very intrusive and almost like they are physically entering the house. And then it gets territorial!
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Post by sekar on Mar 12, 2017 16:21:29 GMT
I have not got a smartphone so there is no a such problem for me at all . I think a smartphone to be a kind of a gimmick . Some times ago a local headquarter of Kirby vacuum cleaners distributors was located in our district not far from me . These salepersons usually gave real show trying to sell this "gorgeous" machine to you ! They asked about $4000-4500-5000 for set ( it may be even used demo VAC ) it was ridiculously high price so they could make you take a loan ! What a shameless trickery was it but that's a business and You have just signed the document .
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