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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 23:46:07 GMT
Following on from a recent post, I thought I would ask for pointers to who I should be listening to, to hear some interesting bass, especially of the fretless variety. Earlier during this evening's listening session, I was listening to some 'Free' and homed in on Andy Fraser's great playing. From there I dug out an old Paul Young's Greatest Hits cd, bought specifically so I could listen to the amazing Pino Palladino on fretless. That of course immediately made me think of Mick Karn, so out came some old Japan albums. I finished off by listening to Paul Webb on Talk Talk's 'It's My Life'. Fretless Heaven I realise that most (almost all) bass is simple, follow-the-rhythm dum-de-dum (I think it's called 'doubling'),which is fairly uninteresting and just chugs along in the background. But some bass players are not content - and have far too much talent - to be 'dum-de-dum' background guys. Their bass is telling its own story within the main melody, but still reinforcing that melody at the same time. Anyway, can any of you guys chuck out some other names I should be listening to? What might make it more difficult is that I'm not particularly into the Jazz bass guys like Clarke, Pastorious, Mingus, etc. Any names??
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Post by gommer on Jun 9, 2013 10:30:19 GMT
Del Palmer in many of Kate Bush's tracks comes to mind
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Post by Crispy on Jun 9, 2013 11:40:21 GMT
Following on from a recent post, I thought I would ask for pointers to who I should be listening to, to hear some interesting bass, especially of the fretless variety. Nice thread Jeff. a few to get you on your way Danny Thompson with Richard Thompson Weather report - Jaco Pastorius Sting Marc King Marcus miller
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 12:45:41 GMT
Woah, that's some specification to meet.
Here goes from what I have:
Fretless Bass
Jaco Pastorius (bassist for Weather Report) used a customized fretless Fender Jazz Bass.
Bakithi Kumalo, South African bass player noted for his work with Paul Simon and others.
Dann Glenn (solo bassist/composer) has a signature model fretless bass by Hotwire Basses, and also plays Fender Jazz and LightWave fretless basses.
Juan Alderete (bassist for The Mars Volta, and previously `) has constantly used fretless basses over his career including using a custom fretless Fender Jazz Bass as his main bass of the album Frances the Mute.
Bill Wyman, (former bassist of The Rolling Stones), was the first bass player to use a self-made fretless Fender/electric bass that he created after stripping down a standard bass. He removed the frets from his second-hand bass because they were rattling.[1] This can be heard on many of the early Rolling Stones records.
Rick Danko (of The Band and later, Danko/Fjeld/Andersen) used a fretless bass starting around 1970, heard on the 1971 Cahoots studio album and the Rock of Ages album recorded live in 1971.
Freebo (session musician known mostly for his work with Bonnie Raitt) has used a fretless bass live and on many recordings.
Brent Liles (bassist for Social Distortion and Agent Orange)
Jonas Hellborg (solo bassist) extensively used fretless bass both on his solo bass recordings and with other projects, currently has a signature bass co designed by him from Warwick.
Pedro Aznar, bassist and composer who has played with Serú Girán and The Pat Metheny Group.
Laurence Cottle British session fretless/fretted bass player who has worked with such diverse artist as Sting, Cher, Eno, Eric Clapton and Black Sabbath.
John Myung of Dream Theater can be seen performing on a fretless six string in Metropolis 2000: Scenes from New York during the song Through Her Eyes.
Steve Bailey, a session bassist, performs on the six string fretless bass guitar. Jack Bruce (of Cream) uses a fretless Warwick bass guitar.
Sean Malone (of Cynic, et al.), wrote an analytical teaching book on Jaco Pastorius' playing and also plays the Chapman Stick.
Gary Willis (of Tribal Tech), has a signature model fretless bass by Ibanez.
Marnie Jaffe (of Live Skull) played a fretless bass in the band Live Skull.
Steve DiGiorgio (one of the few fretless bassists in the metal scene) usually plays a six string fretless bass.
John Paul Jones (bassist for Led Zeppelin) plays fretless bass on several Led Zeppelin songs, most notably on "In My Time of Dying".
Colin Edwin (of British progressive rock band Porcupine Tree).
John Deacon (bassist of Queen) plays fretless bass on several Queen songs.
Mick Karn (former bassist of Japan and avantgarde musician) has used fretless bass guitar since the late 1970s. Karn has mainly used Travis Bean during his early Japan years and Wal (bass) since 1981.
Tony Levin was made famous because of the fretless bass parts on Peter Gabriel's "Sledgehammer" and on a large amount of his solo album work. Like Sean Malone, Levin also plays the Chapman Stick.
Tony Franklin has been instrumental in bringing the fretless bass to heavy music recordings. Franklin is generally associated with the fretless Fender Precision Bass; he has a signature model. During the 80's he was also seen with Jaydee basses.
Pino Palladino, a session bassist, has developed a fretless bass method. The bulk of Pino's fretless work was played with a pre Ernie Ball Music Man StingRay.
Percy Jones bass player with Brand X and Tunnels. Percy initially played a fretless Fender Precision Bass then a Wal (bass) and finally an Ibanez EDA905. Jones started playing fretless bass in 1971[5] Bunny Brunel had used a fretless bass on many recordings since the 1970s, usually a signature Carvin BB75 (bass).
Victor Wooten uses a custom five-string fretless bass on several of his own songs as well as several Bela Fleck and the Flecktones songs. Sting (bassist and leader of The Police) used a variety of fretless basses with The Police Jeroen Paul Thesseling, fretless bassist, currently plays progressive/technical death metal for the band Obscura, as well as microtonal world music. He uses six-string fretless Warwick basses.
Jandek, outsider musician, has recorded entire albums of only vocals and fretless electric bass.
Jeff Ament, (bassist of Pearl Jam) uses fretless basses on some Pearl Jam songs as well his other projects. Jeff is normally seen play Wal (bass) basses when using a fretless.
Paul Simonon from The Clash used a fretless Fender Precision Bass in 1981, during the period of their Sandinista! album.
Mo Foster is a highly regarded UK session bassist whose 'voice' is a fretless Fender Jazz bass.
Stomu Takeishi is a Japanese jazz bassist.
Geddy Lee, of the Canadian rock trio Rush has played fretless bass on and off since the 1970s. He used a Fender aco Pastorius tribute bass to play the bass line for the instrumental Malignant Narcissism from 2007's Snakes & Arrows.
Les Claypool (of Primus and his many other side projects) uses a variety of fretless basses, most commonly an upright 5 string, and more famously his Carl Thompson (luthier) 4 string fretlesses and 6 string fretless Rainbow Bass.
Colin Moulding, bass player with XTC uses fretless bass to achieve their distinctive sound. Almost all songs on the XTC album English Settlement use fretless bass.
Martin Mendez, bassist for Opeth used a fretless bass on Still Life.
David Gilmour, Pink Floyd guitarist, plays a fretless bass on Hey You. And their bassist and songwriter Roger Waters plays fretless bass on the track "A Pillow of Winds" from the 1971 Meddle album.
Michel Hatzigeorgiou, Aka Moon is a Belgian bassist.
Michael Manring, solo bassist, plays Zon Hyperbass (TM) fretless basses for his experimental virtuoso music.
Stu Hamm, studio/solo bassist, can be seen playing a fretless on the song Rubina on Joe Satriani's Live in San Francisco DVD.
Tom Jenkinson, also known as Squarepusher, sometimes performs using fretless bass.
Morty Black, former bass player for TNT has used fretless bass on songs such as Forever Shine On and Without Your Love.
Kristoffer Gildenlöw, former bass player for Pain of Salvation has extensively used fretless bass by ESP in many album recordings, such as BE and One Hour by the Concrete Lake.
Paul Webb (bassist for Talk Talk)
John Taylor, bass player with Duran Duran occasionally uses fretless bass, having used one notably on the Duran Duran song "Lonely In Your Nightmare" from their hit album "Rio" and also on the song "Tiger Tiger" from their third album "Seven And The Ragged Tiger".
I'm not particular of what the musicians use as I listen only for the music rather than how they play it. You want fretless guitariats, I have also. Just ping me.
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Post by Crispy on Jun 9, 2013 17:14:21 GMT
Woah, that's some specification to meet. A few more Jeff Stanley Clarke Stanley Clarke, Marcus Miller & Victor Wooten
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 20:41:27 GMT
Thanks very much Marc, Chris and Chong. That's given me plenty to explore Yum Yum
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Post by drymdrum on Jun 28, 2013 0:16:24 GMT
Hi Jeff, just caught this thread, I've been listening to a fair bit of Melody Gardot recently I think you might like her bass player Charnett Moffett, here he shows off his skills on the upright. Plays fretted and fretless bass guitar also.
With Mcoy Tyner
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Post by Rabbit on Jun 28, 2013 10:14:59 GMT
My goodness, there's a collection of serious players there!! It always surprises me just how fast some bass players can move on what I think is a cumbersome instrument.
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Post by gommer on Jun 28, 2013 10:33:13 GMT
Oh oh, if we're including upright bass, I'll add Ruben Samama. I've seen this guy live with the Jeff Neve trio and they performed, amongst other, the next piece:
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Post by drymdrum on Jun 28, 2013 10:53:13 GMT
Hi Ian, have you seen Stephan Braun play cello? Here he is with the dammed instrument tucked up under his arm like you would hold a guitar.............brilliant.
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Post by Rabbit on Jun 28, 2013 11:01:09 GMT
Good grief!!!! I listened on the PX100 and the 'cello sounds like two instruments. Bass and guitar. That is REALLY nice. I love that playing. Now you've made me buy his album, 'The Raid'
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Post by Dave on Jun 28, 2013 11:18:18 GMT
Sorry Ian, I did say I'd keep quiet on this subject but why ain't you gone fishin' as anticipated? - sod the forum, get out on the river bank or I'll report you to your chief carer (wife) . Dave.
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Post by Rabbit on Jun 28, 2013 12:30:17 GMT
It's piddling with rain, Dave. The chubb won't go anywhere. I go out in that and I'll get some other problem!!
I have an 8 acre garden to walk in here so I can always dive between trees birdwatching, which I also find very relaxing. (feathered ones before you ask!!) Then if there are no birds, I can look over the downs with my binoculars or telescope right into Kent. Failing that, I can send helis up into the sky!!
Actually I'm having a great time here listening to some music. I quite like seeing what guys suggest because they come from such different areas of music and widen your own horizons.
This 'cello guy is quite brilliant actually. Listening now.
I was looking at the 'balance' of this forum today and you know, it's really even between Tech, Digital and Music. So it's really well balanced because very often, they are all Tech/amps/headphones/arguments and here on DIYAH it's got a healthy balance imo.
Quite chuffed about that.
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