I have a family member in hospital, that would like to listen to music. To keep noise out (and in) I'd like to get a closed headphone. But since lying on a pillow isn't easy with an over ear large set, I think an on ear would be better. Neutral to warm sounding, no bass head stuff.
Can anyone advise a good one, for not too much money? Thanks!
Well...it's delicate. The earcups of dt240 are larger than typical on-ear headphones but thinner and more compact than typical over-ear headphones. Most people will find their ears fit in while some may not for this reason. So I thought they could give as much space to turn your head around as on-ear headphones do, maybe more than some bulky ones. Also they have two cable connectors on both sides which I find useful when I don't want the cable to be tangled with an instrument which occupied my left body...Oh gosh I forgot dt240 come with coiled cable. Never mind.
Solderdude, what is the dedicated amp you're including with the 1350? I checked on Amazon.de, and a lot of people say the sound isn't the greatest, mids and treble are poor. Not sure why they hear so much difference than other people. Maybe they got a different revision or a fake?
Coolblue has the Marshalls pretty low priced, so it's going to be either that one or the 1350. I'll ask the patient what she'd prefer :-)
IMO one of the best on-ear headphones around. Certainly with the dedicated (filtered) headphone amp.
A rather small over-ear with excellent SQ is the NAD VISO HP50. Also for sale (see link above).
The latest Marshall Major 3 (wired) isn't expensive and probably a good listen. The major 2 is cheap at the moment but a bit dark sounding (needs EQ) The major 3 has more presence/clarity
Also Marshall Mid BT is good sounding after modded. May be difficult to find nowadays? From ebay 78$/69€. If it's genuine its a good deal. It only issue is treble spike and it can be fixed easily. I did not play that long to mod it but I could have done it better because with trade off 3-5 kHz bumps few dB and 15-16 kHz loweres 10 dB. Bass had good extension, punchy and clear, middle nice but slightly elevated, slightly recressed upper frequencies and tiny ringing at 5 KHz. Some superluxs doing better but needs alot more precise modding, EQ and overear.
I have owned a pair of DT-1350 for a few years now. I have to agree with Solderdude. They are the best on ear headphones I have heard. Only problem was an apparent QC issue with some units. A good sounding pair is very satisfying. You just have to buy from a trusted seller. They are also very solidly built.
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lobalwarming: But, let's say it's a live rock or jazz band with multi mic mayhem. Most of the phase response of the live performance has already been mortally wounded, and we haven't even made it to the mixdown
Sept 3, 2019 4:03:51 GMT
lobalwarming: Then the recording is mixed in a studio, hopefully with decent monitoring and a mix engineer who hasn't blown his ears out.
Sept 3, 2019 4:05:32 GMT
lobalwarming: After the mix engineer has finished the mix to his/her satisfaction (which means bias), then the mastering engineer takes a whack at it because the mastering engineer doesn't like the biases/tastes of the mix engineer.
Sept 3, 2019 4:08:14 GMT
lobalwarming: Quite likely neither mix engineer nor mastering engineer attended the live recording (unless a boutique label).
Sept 3, 2019 4:09:13 GMT
lobalwarming: Also... the mix & mastering engineer are normally using speakers to monitor and 'optimize' the recording for. Very, very, very few optimize for headphone listening.
Sept 3, 2019 4:14:24 GMT
lobalwarming: Making a really high quality recording that reflects the live performance sonics is really hard. So many places it can go wrong.
Sept 3, 2019 4:15:52 GMT
lobalwarming: The recording/capture/manipulation/production determine about 90% of the ultimate quality. Our little playback chains get to play with the last 10%.
Sept 3, 2019 4:17:24 GMT
lobalwarming: Since there is no perfect headphone, amp, DAC, mic, preamp we have to decide what elements of the live performance we want to focus on
Sept 3, 2019 4:23:02 GMT
lobalwarming: That focus can change depending on our mood/time of day and dozens of other subjective variables
Sept 3, 2019 4:24:47 GMT
lobalwarming: Some days I enjoy the BP ECC40 more, because it's exceptionally transparent and (with a phase-preserving recording) can accurately reproduce a sense of 3D space with excellent depth perception and precise imaging.
Sept 3, 2019 4:26:42 GMT
lobalwarming: Imaging that is a fake, of course. Because stereo is a crude approximation.
Sept 3, 2019 4:27:46 GMT
lobalwarming: Other days, I enjoy the ECC32 more, because its nature enhances the 'experience' - it often feels more engaging despite knowing it too is a fake engagement.
Sept 3, 2019 4:29:57 GMT
lobalwarming: Our brains are amazing at sensory pattern matching and our imaginations can fill in many details. But our brains are easily distracted and often distracting - messing with attention with random thoughts and/or filtering out stimulus.
Sept 3, 2019 4:32:27 GMT
lobalwarming: And before I'm banned from the shoutbox for filling all the boxes... even if I could definitively claim the ECC40 or ECC32 is better than the other, that's just me. Could be that you prefer entirely different tubes and I'm a tone-deaf idiot. ;-)
Sept 3, 2019 4:38:45 GMT
lobalwarming: What I love so much about headphone listening is that it's personal. I can tweak my system to satisfy only my whims, not the collective opinions of friends or the internet
Sept 3, 2019 4:39:59 GMT
lobalwarming: I've bought many tubes, that many claimed were the 'best', only to listen on my system with my ears and decide they were closer to the worst for me. That's why I state it as flavours. There is no objective standard that we all can agree on for live music
Sept 3, 2019 4:42:28 GMT
lobalwarming: Some prefer to be closer to stage/musicians and others prefer the sound blended with some hall acoustics and sit further back.
Sept 3, 2019 4:44:31 GMT
lobalwarming: As a recordist, which spot is the 'best seat in the house'? It's subjective.
Sept 3, 2019 4:45:08 GMT
sene: Thanks for sharing your ideas and opinion...i will give these tubes a try
Sept 3, 2019 4:58:01 GMT
lobalwarming: The ECC31 is the same construction as the ECC32, but for the heater config. The ECC31 with an adapter will still be much cheaper than the ECC32. Which will let you save up for a 1st gen unicorn Black Plate Phillips ECC40 ;-)
Sept 5, 2019 1:33:46 GMT