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Post by Rabbit on May 28, 2014 11:05:11 GMT
I've been looking around for something else to fit onto the DT1350 for a little while now and have found a pad that is slightly larger then the originals that will fit. Once you get a good seal, the DT1350 actually isn't bad at all and it does go very deep into the bass in particular, but the pads have always put me off since it can be difficult to get a good seal with them. I met a guy using them to work with (would you believe) and he had changed them. I tried the headphone and it was indeed, way more comfortable and the difference is only 4mm. The original pads are 63mm and the replacements are 67mm with texact same way of fitting. I think they also work for the T50 and may well be designed for them in any case. Polar Audio supply to dj's and people in recording as well as general sales so there is nothing fancy on the site but the link to the pads is here: splashurl.com/lje5pn7Nigel Brake is very helpful and he knoew exactly what I was talking about when I spoke to him about the sizes etc.
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Post by solderdude on May 28, 2014 11:31:44 GMT
The pads on the newer DT1350CC are also 67mm and somewhat thicker. Can the Polar Audio pads be the original wider Beyer pads ? The EDT1350NL pads (fake suede) change the sound in the same way as the HD25 pads.
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Post by Dave (not logged in - ooops) on May 28, 2014 12:06:45 GMT
splashurl.com/lje5pn7Nigel Brake is very helpful and he knoew exactly what I was talking about when I spoke to him about the sizes etc. Hi Ian, FWIW your splashurl links always take me to a totally blank page - does anyone else have the same problem? I'm running Win8.1 on a Vaio laptop if that makes any difference. I am not just referring to the above link but to all your splashurl links. Dave.
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Post by Rabbit on May 28, 2014 13:21:50 GMT
The pads aren't velour Frans. Same material as original pads.
Nigel was talking about how so many engineers had complained about the original pads that they decided to stock these. Problem is that I can't a/b them. I think they may be a fraction fuller and just 4mm difference in width so the pressure on the ears is lessened a little bit.
They only seem to have a couple more pairs left. He said they can get more though. £22 I think with vat.
Dave, I clicked on it and it takes me to the site. So does Frans' link. There's no picture of them, but I've tried them on a headphone and they sounded ok to me. The company supplies dj's and engineer type people rather than hi fi listeners, although they do have some good headphones, but not at consumer friendly prices!!
I guess without vat they look a bit better, but guys using their stuff would also claim tax relief on it too I guess, so prices aren't great.
Mine should arrive in a couple of days.
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Post by solderdude on May 28, 2014 14:03:28 GMT
Beyer doesn't have velour pads for the DT1350. Only pleather and fake Nubukleather ones.
I have the T50 pads, the DT1350 pads and the DT1350NL pads but would like to try the bigger pleather pads (the ones from the add) They will probably sound better than the NL pads. I don't like the T50 and DT1350 pads.
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Post by Rabbit on May 28, 2014 16:03:41 GMT
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Post by Rabbit on May 30, 2014 11:25:10 GMT
The pads arrived within two days. They are indeed bigger and on the headphone, they look a lot wider although there's only 4mm in it!! Now, they spill out past the cups whereas before, the edges of the pads were in line with the cups. They are slightly flatter, so your ears are a fraction closer to the drivers, but they are lovely and soft. Softer than the ones I had actually, so when you put the headphone on, it's way more comfortable. It also seals easier. Way easier. The old pads took quite a bit of pulling to get them off and I had to lower the cups by one click either side to get a really good seal. Now the deep bass really hits well and it doesn't go every time I move my jaw because the seal goes. I can't really say too much about how the sound has 'changed' in terms of detail but the timbre has slightly shifted for me. You also have a lot more confidence in the sound due to the fact that the seal is there with no fuss. The tone of the headphone seems 'deeper' but I reckon there are no changes, it's the shape of my ears and the seal that's done it so that it sounds a little 'warmer'. I feel a lot more happy with the DT1350 and these pads. I acually like the sound of the Beyers now. Given the fact that they have such small cups, they do a surprising job. Since the bass has impact, it balances a lot better with the treble so that it's no longer edgy sounding. In fact, the treble seems just as extended without any harshness of old at all. I don't think the bass was quite as well defined as it is now and that may well be the result of a better seal. Perhaps when I 'thought' I had a seal, it was actually only a partial seal so I was getting bass, but not with the low impact that I'm getting now. Before, I had to push down hard to get the same. The package is a Beyer labelled one and the pads are listed as 'original accessories' so they are kosher. 910376, Earpad Set EDT 1350. Softskin large. Why they didn't fit these pads in the first place, I don't know. Much more comfortable. Maybe I've been a bit hard on the DT1350. It's actually very good. Best portable headphone I've tried.
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Post by dicky on May 30, 2014 12:09:32 GMT
Hi Ian,
I assume that as the pads still sit *on* your lug 'oles, the improved seal is simply through surface area in contact with your ears?
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Post by Rabbit on May 30, 2014 12:32:00 GMT
Hi Dicky,
Yes, they are 'on ear' still but just that extra bit of spread lightens the load!! They are also slightly softer. I've had them on all morning and they feel fine now. Spock's Beard bass is nice and deep and boy does it hit on these. No fat bass bloat but deep impact. In fact, they are a very surprising headphone since you wouldn't believe the impact that you get from such a small set of cups.
The better seal is literally millimetres. It just takes a tiny amount of width and it really seals well. I think it's the 'knobbles' in my ears that cause the problem. If you have harder pads, they just don't bend or 'form' the shape for yor ears enough to seal properly. These new pads bed right down lke memory foam. Way better.
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Post by dicky on May 30, 2014 12:35:34 GMT
Sounds good (no pun intended). Are you using them with any filtering (e.g. Kameleon) or are they raw?
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Post by solderdude on May 30, 2014 12:42:57 GMT
They would need a different filter than the one in the article.
Only the slight 'cuppy-ness' should be removed, otherwise they sound good. I really like the DT1350, just don't like it with stock pads nor without EQ.
I should order the wider pads myself one of these days. If it were only to measure the differences.
As said I cannot recommend the EDT1350-NL pads, if someone is looking for those (the Nubuk Leather) PM me...
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Post by dicky on May 30, 2014 13:01:10 GMT
I'm tempted to try them for the comfort alone. How much of a tweak would the filter need?
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Post by solderdude on May 30, 2014 13:07:35 GMT
To make an accurate filter I would have to measure a set. If you going to buy a set, buy 2 of them and mail one of them to me (regular envelope) They only deliver to UK mainland and can't get them here. Of course I will pay for the pads and the shipping costs . I can measure the pad/DT1350 combo and make an exact filter for them.
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Post by Rabbit on May 30, 2014 13:46:51 GMT
Of course, I can'r be sure, but the sound isn't far removed from the standard pads pushed down on my ears. Funnily enough, I can't hear the 'cuppiness'. Maybe I've adjusted to them, I don't know.
They do seem quite warm sounding in the treble, but still extended. I have no filtering Dicky. Just using them straight from an Ipod Classic. You can always stretch out the headband to make it more comfortable, but you'd have to be careful not to overdo it since the seal may be compromised.
I think for me, the seal was 'partially' there so sometimes, I got the deep bass and at other times, without realising the seal was off, I got a nasal, cuppy, shallow sound that was quite awful for listening. You also seem to get 'in between' type sound as well with a partial seal. If I very slightly lift the pads, the sound returns to what I remember as 'normal' for these headphones. (Which is why I didn't like them)
Now, I think they are a really good headphone and I'm glad that I didn't sell them tbh.
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Post by dicky on May 30, 2014 18:02:34 GMT
Frans, I just pulled the trigger. I should get them in the post to you mid-week. Just PM me your address when you get a chance.
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