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Post by techboy on Sept 22, 2013 8:43:20 GMT
Has anybody compared Project amps to any of Woo audio amps or with bottlehead crack?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 10:47:54 GMT
Has anybody compared Project amps to any of Woo audio amps or with bottlehead crack? Ha Ha, you are never satisfied!!! just like me really my next amp upgrade will be the psu for the Ember, when Jeremy releases it.
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Post by solderdude on Sept 23, 2013 19:09:47 GMT
I've also tried some 6CG7/6GU7/12BH7 tubes on the Ember and haven't had any problems. The heater voltage regulator used is specified to 500mA. The manufacturer claims this is with a good safety margin and 600mA should not be a problem. (the one in Starlight and Sunrise can supply 1A but is not capable of lowering 48V) Depending on the tube, however, some heaters draw much more current on start-up (like halogen bulbs) in which case the regulator goes in overload. This will result in the heater switching on and off and on etc. until the heater is warm enough and the current drops. When that happens the heater (and thus also the LED underneath the tube) will glow normally. The regulator does get warmer than when 300mA heaters are used which in the (very) long run may lead to failure. Jeremy has one of those tubes (or a load don't know) on continuously as a test and is still working AFAIK. For this reason I do not recommend those tubes, just to be on the safe side. Chances are 600mA isn't a real problem and can be used indefinitely, after all it is an open design and convection cooling is better as in a sealed enclosure.
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Post by itsalive on Sept 23, 2013 19:19:49 GMT
I currently have a Siemens 12AU7 and Siemens 6922. What is ECC801? How much does it cost? And I said I didnt have huge surplus, just reasonable money open another topic on this forum for tube questions about Ember..
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Post by solderdude on Sept 23, 2013 19:38:52 GMT
open another topic on this forum for tube questions about Ember.. I have opened a toooob threat HERE: diyah.boards.net/thread/366/Tubes (for Ember or any other amp) can be discussed there...
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Post by techboy on Sept 24, 2013 14:01:38 GMT
Have you ever owned or tried any other amps which you feel are at par with ember? Like a Woo Audio WA6 or Burson HA-160 or have you tried other DIY amps like Beta22 or EHHA etc? Thank You for your patience and promptness. I might be able to compare it to an EHHA in a couple of weeks if my friend agrees to get it to my place. Can't promise, am trying.
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 24, 2013 14:06:05 GMT
Yes, I have. However my memories of comparisons wouldn't be fair or accurate. I used a Woo Audio at one time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 19:42:39 GMT
techboy at the price of the Ember, if i was you i would take a chance on it. Frans and Jeremy obviously "know their onions", they are both on here all the time so support would be 2nd to none. if it dont suit your taste, sell it on. have you searched the net to see if anyone anywhere has any negative comments on the Ember? i am no good at writing reviews as i dont have the knowledge or vocab, but i will say this amp put a smile on my face even before i plugged it in. no pics on here(internet) do it justice. i have had an ss amp in the past that cost nearly double the price of the Ember (will not mention the name as that is not something i want to get into) at the moment i am using a diy ss amp, the panda, (not built by me thankfully), this blew away everything i had before which includes a modded xcan v1 and v2 as well as the "not to be mentioned" ss amp. the Ember has the warm tube sound, as in the modded v2 but with the power of the panda ss amp. i do believe the guys are working on a psu upgrade for the Ember too. so on top of all the tailoring options (as Ian stated), there is a future upgrade to be had too. i doubt you would regret buying the Ember ;-) 1. I can't find where you compared Ember to Panda. How does it compare? Are they similar or is one a step up from the other? Can you give a link to Panda and its cost? 2. Which is the not to be mentioned amp? Link and cost? 3. How much does MF V1 and V2 cost? 4. Did you compare to any other amp? Thank You. Thanks a lot. I know I am demanding but I would appreciate a good reply Thank You, thanks a lot! Aakshey Aakshey my amp history goes as follows, number one being the first i owned. 1)zero dac/amp 2)little dot mk5 3)Graham Slee solo srg2 4)Graham Slee solo ultra linear, with alternative psu (linear, but not the GS psu1) 5)modded MF x-can v1 6)modded MF x-can v2 (used both of these with modded X10-d tube buffer 7)custom diy built Panda SS amp, built by Mike (Pinkfloyd) of the "rockgrotto" forum (my current amp, as Ember not here yet) all good amps in my opinion. some offered better value than others. i feel i have moved up with each change (for my taste) i still say my current (panda) amp sounds fantastic. seemed altogether more powerful than the unit it replaced (no 6 on my list). at this point i was planning to change from denon d7000 headphones (not a power hungry headphone) to my first set of "planar" phones. planar headphones generally demand more power to be driven properly. i did , however, miss that "tube" warmth that i had with option 6. i could have kept the x10-d buffer and used it with my panda. but i wanted to reduce clutter on my desktop and i had read about the Ember , at this point. during the trial i had with the Ember i soon realised it had all (if not more) the power of my panda and of course that warm tube sound. please note i never had all these amps at the same time. as i bought a new one i would sell the one i least prefered. as you are using the Ember as a buffer, none of this is really relevant to you (imo) rather than worrying about more amps, if i were you, i would invest in a real good set of headphones. my suggestion would be to follow the route of the modded t50rp, as mentioned by many on here. i am still learning, as you , but the guys on here really do "know their onions", trust their advice. Simon
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 20:45:24 GMT
Hi, I've noticed how patient and helpful everyone is here. So I have got a couple of little questions, if one of you guys could take the time and trouble to answer.
1. How does every piece of Hi-Fi ever made compare with every other piece of Hi-Fi ever made? . . . and
2. How much does every piece of Hi-Fi ever made, cost,
A - When new? , and
B - Now?
Thanks very much,
Jeff
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 25, 2013 20:56:10 GMT
I must admit, my Panda sits in a cupboard too now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 18:43:56 GMT
my Ember has arrived. thanks Jeremy, sounds fantastic. have chosen hi gain input, bypassed caps,low output resistance. tube is 6h1n-bn, sounds simply awesome to me. got 3 different tubes to try when(if) i feel the need.
power is amazing. vol pot bottoms out at around 7 o'clock, i am listening now at 8 o'clock. more headroom than St.Pauls!! loving it!
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Post by jhelms on Sept 26, 2013 19:16:47 GMT
Very glad she arrived safe and sound I really do like the 6n1p's you are listening to now - that and they are very inexpensive at the moment. Makes for quite a budget gem. Enjoy!
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 26, 2013 19:33:49 GMT
my Ember has arrived. thanks Jeremy, sounds fantastic. have chosen hi gain input, bypassed caps,low output resistance. tube is 6h1n-bn, sounds simply awesome to me. got 3 different tubes to try when(if) i feel the need. power is amazing. vol pot bottoms out at around 7 o'clock, i am listening now at 8 o'clock. more headroom than St.Pauls!! loving it! Great! It just has a big, full bodied sound Simon. It's the only amp I'm using nowadays. I did a direct comparison with the V8 today. My V8 was modified very heavily by Mike who basically unglued all of the guts (they were fixed) and replaced a lot of stuff inside and I connect it to a deluxe Little Pinkie. Ie; a very hefty power supply. This was all done originally to give the V8 a bigger sound. The Ember sound is most definitely bigger. It has more bass weight and doesn't seem so skewed to the top as the V8. Easier on the ears and less 'screeching' I guess. Considering the V8 went at £500, the Ember really does well. I prefer it and it costs quite a bit less!! Never directly compared before.
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Post by solderdude on Sept 27, 2013 6:32:10 GMT
In the end... other peoples opinions of any purchase should not really matter any more after one made the purchase, unless you need, and value, as much 'confirmation' by others in order to get the feeling you made the right choice. Your ears, and whether you are pleased with whatever you purchased, should be the only thing that matters IMHO. That is unless you are insecure or on a perpetuum search for something 'better'.
There will ALWAYS be someone that feels A performs better than B while B may be better than A or A may be better than B to someone else.
a nice example was the eternal 'fued' between DT880, K701 and HD650(HD600) owners who in the end all are correct in thinking the one they preferred is better (to them) instead they treat their opinion as an universal truth.
Reading reviews (if you actually 'know' the reviewers) can be helpful in the decision making proces BEFRORE you buy. For this it is always nice to read reviews. With equipment that is very new or not widely available this can be more difficult.
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 27, 2013 6:44:25 GMT
Yes, fine to compare things but incessantly and even quoting someone from HeadFi? So rumour becomes truth?
On a mostly objective site, it's complete nonsense.
Opinions are fine. However, I think the limit is when it gets to incessant and even someone else's opinion. Crazy!!!
Soon, it'll be a comparison with a $1000 as amp done by someone on Headfi who got it from Somewhere else.
It's just not fair to be doing that to any product and demonstrates absolute ignorance and total disregard towards the type of product being spoken about. The Ember stands on its own simply because of its unique selling points. Why compare it (from second hand reports on Headfi of all places) with an ss amp that costs more?
Just irresponsible writing and needs to be curtailed or else we'll get more of sooner or later!!
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