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Post by oldson on Feb 10, 2015 18:06:08 GMT
is there such a thing ? seen a mention of them over on HF. please tell me these belong with diamond encrusted usb cables? (oh and burn-in)
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Post by solderdude on Feb 10, 2015 19:25:26 GMT
To some there certainly is such a thing.
A fuse is just a piece of wire that is supposed to burn on over-current. An audiophile grade is just a goldplated and very expensive piece of wire that is supposed to burn on over-current.
Usually thes fuses can be found in the primary of a mains transformer (where there is no audio), or between power supply capacitors and components that can fail catastrophically and are supposed to prevent fires from happening.
When components burn they usually let out the magic smoke. Perhaps and audiophile grade fuse will make the components emit only smoke and keep the magic in the components. Perhaps it will burn in a nice tube like glow instead of a white flash... who knows.
One thing is for sure... they will empty your wallet. It will change nothing in a measurable way but may convince the mind (and thus perception) that you went to great lengths to get optimal sound.
Once you go down that route ... the fuse holders will have to be changed as well. The copper traces in the PCB will have to be silverplated (or gold plated). This means all components need to be removed, the PCB stripped of its protective coating, silver or goldplated, receive a new solder mask laquer and all components need to be upgraded and soldered with audiophile solder. All the wiring inside the amp needs to be changed. The copper wires in the mains transformer will have to be replaced with OFC or other audiophile grade wires. Unwinding and rewinding a toroid is a pretty tedious task without a special machine. The mains switch will have to be replaced as well... the mains lead will have to become audiophile grade (and screened). The wall sockets need replacement. Copper wiring in the walls needs to be replaced with screened silver plated OFC copper with goldplated contacts and your power meter needs to be replaced with a smart meter (or a very old one as they sound better).
You get the drift ?
In short .... buy a few favorite albums instead.
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Post by oldson on Feb 10, 2015 19:42:52 GMT
To some there certainly is such a thing. A fuse is just a piece of wire that is supposed to burn on over-current. An audiophile grade is just a goldplated and very expensive piece of wire that is supposed to burn on over-current. Usually thes fuses can be found in the primary of a mains transformer (where there is no audio), or between power supply capacitors and components that can fail catastrophically and are supposed to prevent fires from happening. When components burn they usually let out the magic smoke. Perhaps and audiophile grade fuse will make the components emit only smoke and keep the magic in the components. Perhaps it will burn in a nice tube like glow instead of a white flash... who knows. One thing is for sure... they will empty your wallet. It will change nothing in a measurable way but may convince the mind (and thus perception) that you went to great lengths to get optimal sound. Once you go down that route ... the fuse holders will have to be changed as well. The copper traces in the PCB will have to be silverplated (or gold plated). This means all components need to be removed, the PCB stripped of its protective coating, silver or goldplated, receive a new solder mask laquer and all components need to be upgraded and soldered with audiophile solder. All the wiring inside the amp needs to be changed. The copper wires in the mains transformer will have to be replaced with OFC or other audiophile grade wires. Unwinding and rewinding a toroid is a pretty tedious task without a special machine. The mains switch will have to be replaced as well... the mains lead will have to become audiophile grade (and screened). The wall sockets need replacement. Copper wiring in the walls needs to be replaced with screened silver plated OFC copper with goldplated contacts and your power meter needs to be replaced with a smart meter (or a very old one as they sound better). You get the drift ? In short .... buy a few favorite albums instead. that confirmed what i already thought. this guy on hf reckoned it opened up the soundstage. i wanted to post that he was talking utter boll.x , but did not want to look an idiot. what with these and cables many are being ripped off, big time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 21:39:17 GMT
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Post by solderdude on Feb 10, 2015 21:46:20 GMT
When listening to headphones you might as well also want to invest a fair amount of cash in THIS
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Post by oldson on Feb 10, 2015 21:59:46 GMT
ordered one of each, thanks guys. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 0:49:39 GMT
To some there certainly is such a thing. A fuse is just a piece of wire that is supposed to burn on over-current. An audiophile grade is just a goldplated and very expensive piece of wire that is supposed to burn on over-current. Usually thes fuses can be found in the primary of a mains transformer (where there is no audio), or between power supply capacitors and components that can fail catastrophically and are supposed to prevent fires from happening. When components burn they usually let out the magic smoke. Perhaps and audiophile grade fuse will make the components emit only smoke and keep the magic in the components. Perhaps it will burn in a nice tube like glow instead of a white flash... who knows. One thing is for sure... they will empty your wallet. It will change nothing in a measurable way but may convince the mind (and thus perception) that you went to great lengths to get optimal sound. Once you go down that route ... the fuse holders will have to be changed as well. The copper traces in the PCB will have to be silverplated (or gold plated). This means all components need to be removed, the PCB stripped of its protective coating, silver or goldplated, receive a new solder mask laquer and all components need to be upgraded and soldered with audiophile solder. All the wiring inside the amp needs to be changed. The copper wires in the mains transformer will have to be replaced with OFC or other audiophile grade wires. Unwinding and rewinding a toroid is a pretty tedious task without a special machine. The mains switch will have to be replaced as well... the mains lead will have to become audiophile grade (and screened). The wall sockets need replacement. Copper wiring in the walls needs to be replaced with screened silver plated OFC copper with goldplated contacts and your power meter needs to be replaced with a smart meter (or a very old one as they sound better). You get the drift ? In short .... buy a few favorite albums instead. I feel there is a certain amount of unwarranted skepticism implicit in the replies to the OP. Apparently, some tech-guy from Holland is telling me what I can, and can't, hear.
Yeah, right!!!Let me tell you, that to those of us with “20-20” hearing, and super-top-quality equipment, even the slightest change in the metal make-up of (for instance) the Mains power cable is instantly noticeable. I quote . . . . "Once you go down that route ... the fuse holders will have to be changed as well. "
I changed my fuseholders to "Unobtanium-plated" super-audiophile holders. The copper traces in the PCB will have to be silverplated (or gold plated).
I Rhodium-plated my traces. Couldn't hear a difference so then I Platinum-plated the traces. This means all components need to be removed, the PCB stripped of its protective coating, silver or goldplated, receive a new solder mask laquer and all components need to be upgraded and soldered with audiophile solder.
I removed all components, stripped the PCB of its protective coating, platinum-plated it, gave it a new platinum-solder mask laquer, I upgraded all components and soldered them with platinum solder. At this point I couldn’t hear any improvement so I stripped the platinum solder and used ultra-expensive, and ultra-rare, Angel's Tears solder. All the wiring inside the amp needs to be changed.
I changed all the wiring – obviously – to a special audio-grade Platinum/Rhodium mixture. Much better than gold or silver!! The copper wires in the mains transformer will have to be replaced with OFC or other audiophile grade wires. Unwinding and rewinding a toroid is a pretty tedious task without a special machine.
Yes, but I got a great E-bay deal on a Chinese “Hyper-grade, Super-Musical, Audiophile, Tube-sound, Platinum-wound Toroid, Hi-Fi, Lovely-sound, Super-musical, Tube-warmth, sound-just-like-a-Steinway, wound-by-Golden-Ears-Experts (not children)-only £6-99-delivered”. The mains switch will have to be replaced as well...
Doh . . . Of course - Rhodium at the very least.
The mains lead will have to become audiophile grade (and screened).
Yes, of course, the very best that Russ Andrews sells!!! The wall sockets need replacement.
Doesn't everyone rip out their original wall-sockets and replace them with platinum-plated MK units??? Copper wiring in the walls needs to be replaced with screened silver plated OFC copper with goldplated contacts and your power meter needs to be replaced with a smart meter (or a very old one as they sound better).
My original (copper) ring-mains has been replaced with silver-plated, Teflon-coated wire, and my contacts are now rhodium-plated. I replaced my smart-meter with an old dumb-meter, but felt there was no improvement, so I replaced that one with a very, very old ANALOGUE one, which sounds so much more ‘musical’. This has taken me around 8 months and almost £3000, but I feel I have gained almost 1% improvement in sound quality. Almost certainly. Probably. Quite possibly. Maybe. My mate Jeff , who just ‘listens to music’ , through some new-fangled Streamer-thing, hooked up to an old-fashioned valve-amp, and some ten-year-old speakers, says it sounds like shit. But what does he know?? He doesn't even have an “Audiophile Fuse”.
Ha ha, what a loser!!
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Post by Rabbit on Feb 11, 2015 7:32:47 GMT
Barnum said it a long time ago .... "There is a sucker, born every minute'! Reading that thread is like reading about some kind of cult. The guy from Seattle is making quite a few people throw their money away and I hope his poxy fuse blows !!!!
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Post by elysion on Feb 11, 2015 16:19:14 GMT
I remember a thread on RG long ago about "audio grade" fuses with gold plated contacts. Below the line, it was all about making money from audio enthusiasts. What about gold plated headphones? Do they sound better? Probably they feel at least better for a class conscious owner. Another good joke is the Grado RA1: Very costly mahogany case with a bad designed cheap CMOY inside.
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Post by ronzo56 on Feb 13, 2015 0:57:55 GMT
I remember seeing pictures of the interior of the RA1. Looked just like a CMOY a former student of mine made using an empty tin mint box as a case. His probably sounded better than the RA1!
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Post by oldson on Feb 12, 2016 19:25:54 GMT
I remember seeing pictures of the interior of the RA1. Looked just like a CMOY a former student of mine made using an empty tin mint box as a case. His probably sounded better than the RA1! bloody hell just read this, a year late i know. i had an RA1 once, luckily i sold it for a slight profit.
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Post by Rabbit on Feb 12, 2016 19:59:35 GMT
You did well then Simon. They really weren't good inside but looked posh because of the wooden case.
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Post by ronzo56 on Feb 13, 2016 0:42:12 GMT
Glad to hear you made a profit.
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Post by oldson on Feb 21, 2016 18:51:54 GMT
was searching earlier for some rca splitters and found a site selling these damn fuses for £80. there really should be a law against it.
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