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Post by oldson on Dec 21, 2014 20:15:19 GMT
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Post by solderdude on Dec 22, 2014 10:34:45 GMT
I hope they sound as good as they look. The colour scheme reminds me of another headphone.
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Post by jhelms on Dec 23, 2014 1:37:54 GMT
I used to despise the color brown, espresso or whatever one wants to call it. However over the last few years, I find it rather lovely and the above are both beautiful and classy!
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Post by oldson on Dec 23, 2014 20:29:15 GMT
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Post by oldson on Dec 23, 2014 20:30:54 GMT
I used to despise the color brown, espresso or whatever one wants to call it. However over the last few years, I find it rather lovely and the above are both beautiful and classy! in a few short years these may match my corduroys!
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Post by Rabbit on Dec 23, 2014 20:32:21 GMT
I used to despise the color brown, espresso or whatever one wants to call it. However over the last few years, I find it rather lovely and the above are both beautiful and classy! I'm not so sure about the red flash though!!
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Post by jhelms on Dec 24, 2014 2:48:14 GMT
Oldson - Haha maybe that is why I hated brown so much - My Grandmother made me wear awful brown corduroys as a child once:)
Ian - yes the red is a little out of place and odd!
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Post by Rabbit on Dec 28, 2014 10:50:18 GMT
The pads they have seem to be very popular recently. Similar to d600 except in corduroy brown. The HF review mentions a light touch bass and I normally associate those kind of pads with a heavier bass. Makes you wonder how thin is thin? I quite fancy hearing these myself. I like the a900 although I know that it's not an 'accurate' headphone in terms of fr. Also lacks deep bass, but it is one of the most comfortable headphones that I have and is very pleasant to listen to as well as easy to drive.
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Post by solderdude on Jan 7, 2015 14:02:22 GMT
Here are some test results (in Korean though)Judging from the plot I would say a very realistic sounding headphone that may be perceived as bass shy by some. The bass rolls off below 50Hz. Mids look very good but may be lacking ultimate clarity a bit. The treble roll-off above 13kHz is something I think I would detect in cymbals/strings. There doesn't seem to be a treble peak as can be found in some AT series which is a good thing. I suspect the treble is smooth yet clearly there judging from FR BUT the CSD would indicate there may be some coarseness in the upper treble as the 8-12kHz region consists of resonances mainly. At 1kHz and 5kHz some ringing but narrow so may not be very sound degrading. I suspect it to be a good sounding headphone but the lack of bass extension and treble extension killed it for me on paper. Perhaps when I hear it in the flesh I may alter my opion.
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Post by oldson on Jan 7, 2015 19:22:08 GMT
Here are some test results (in Korean though)Judging from the plot I would say a very realistic sounding headphone that may be perceived as bass shy by some. The bass rolls off below 50Hz. Mids look very good but may be lacking ultimate clarity a bit. The treble roll-off above 13kHz is something I think I would detect in cymbals/strings. There doesn't seem to be a treble peak as can be found in some AT series which is a good thing. I suspect the treble is smooth yet clearly there judging from FR BUT the CSD would indicate there may be some coarseness in the upper treble as the 8-12kHz region consists of resonances mainly. At 1kHz and 5kHz some ringing but narrow so may not be very sound degrading. I suspect it to be a good sounding headphone but the lack of bass extension and treble extension killed it for me on paper. Perhaps when I hear it in the flesh I may alter my opion. could the shortcomings be rectified by one of your filters?
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Post by solderdude on Jan 7, 2015 19:43:53 GMT
The LF drop off could most likely easily be compensated. The 2kHz - 7kHz dip could be filled in but I suspect the rapid drop-off above 13khz cannot be compensated. I have a sneaky suspicion there is membrane break-up there or other speed related problems of the driver.
The graph could be compensated towards 'applied EQ' trace (the blue trace) in one of the GE plots.
More and deeper bass and better clarity would be the result.
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 5, 2016 6:48:29 GMT
Loan one on the way for me to try. Been curious about these since the hype started!!
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Post by Mr Trev on Sept 5, 2016 16:50:24 GMT
Looking forward to your thoughts. I've been looking at these since their release - (1 month after I bought my hp150 ). Now that the 150s are no more (at least temporarily), they're back on my radar. along with the a990z/a900x
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 5, 2016 17:16:15 GMT
I have an old a900 and it is excellent. The only thing I think is missing is really deep bass but tonal balance and stereo pinpointing is really good. That's one headphone I've had for a long time and never really wanted to get rid of because it is actually a nice listen.
I suspect that the msr7 will also lack deep bass and from what Frans has said, a lack of treble extension. Some complain of sibilance, indicating perhaps a peak up in the top as well.
I just want to compare with what are probably opposites in terms of sound .... The Vmoda m-100 and Sony mdr1a.
I like both of those with maybe more of a liking for the VModa because the bass, although there is lots of it, it is actually quite fast and allows a little more detail through I think. The Sony is just a bit flabbier, but also very nice. Both slightly boost mens' spoken voice which I must admit, I don't like in a headphone. To me, it shows a boost in the top area of the bass region, which can be flattering for music, but ultimately, can be tiring.
Don't think that it'll be there with the msr7.
I tend to have more problem with the clarity of treble in headphones rather than bass quantity. I have many headphones (as you probably know) and the biggest thing that turns me on or off most isn't bass, but the type of treble presentation that they have.
A big or small bass to me just moves the position of bass players. The Vmoda puts the bass player right at the front of the band and these Rockalls that I'm currently wearing put him at the back!!
It's not the quantity of treble that gets to me, it's the quality of its presentation that has been a problem for me with headphones for a very long time.
I'd say treble can sound ....
Strident and edgy, (as in v6 and probably the hd800) Hard edged so cymbals sound like thick metal. (DT770) shooshy. (Like say a dt150) Thin but also sucked out, so muffled, (can't think of one offhand) It can also affect the 'presence'. Very muffled so SSsss sounds like shhhhh, (Vmoda)
It might be that headphones all start to break up at pretty low frequencies, so if there is a suck out at a critical frequency, for some reason, I think I detect it as a tonal problem.
That affects sounds like cymbals a lot and also string tone. Not many sound that great with recorded string tone IMO. Funnily enough, the V6 sounds close to a live sound at some volumes with its massive peak!! (Weird)
For me, treble presentation is a big problem, while I can easily accept a fat bass or a weaker bass more easily.
Out of the major manufacturers, I have often found AT headphones quite 'sweet' in the top for pretty good string presentation. Bass is normally way less although the M50 isn't too shy down there, but that has all kinds of other inconsistencies that I don't particularly care for.
I have a sneaky feeling that the hd800 would suit me better than many, even with its forward treble, since I really don't mind the analytical qualities of the Sony V6 or 7506.
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 14, 2016 9:56:24 GMT
A FAKE MSR7 has arrived. Just unboxing it, you can see that it's a premium headphone. Funnily enough, not from the box which is quite minimal, but the headphone feels beautiful in the hand. Solid construction. Three cables!! A bag. The adjustment mechanism is lovely with positive clicks and the pads are gorgeous. Funny thing - I've read everywhere about the clamping force of these and ear fatigue from wearing them. My ears fit inside easily and there is no pressure as a result. My guess is that people complaining must have bigger ears than me. The pads are really soft and compress down to seal really well. Funnily enough, I can see why these are looked at as premium headphones more than my Momentums. They just feel rock solid and reassuring. With Momentums, you feel that you need to be gentle with them. So far, very positive indeed. Wait until I hear them though ........... Preconceived thoughts - thin. No bass. Uncomfortable. Ragged treble. Well that's what I've read!!! [ PLEASE NOTE: THE HEADPHONE REVIEWED HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A FAKE ]
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