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Post by marveltone on Apr 4, 2016 15:03:16 GMT
That's both heartbreaking and maddening! I hope this can be resolved quickly and relatively painlessly.
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Post by jello on Apr 4, 2016 15:32:00 GMT
Cheers Joe. Just one of these things....I was fully prepared for me to break them when I started to mod but hadn't expected the job to be done for me already The seller is fine so think the return / replacement should be pain free. I was able to clip the earcup back in place briefly for a quick listen.. They don't sound too bad in stock form but don't really have a wow factor. Not necessarily a bad thing per se and Ian told me to expect that. Do think they'll improve with some modding though.
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Post by marveltone on Apr 4, 2016 16:23:45 GMT
I've been following this thread, as I'm trying to decide between the more exciting sounding DT990 and the smoother T50RP. The tinkerer in me is leaning more towards the T50. The thought of a truly customized set of cans with a non-fatiguing sound is slowly starting to outweigh instant gratification, peaky sound, and tired ears.
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Post by marveltone on Apr 4, 2016 16:38:20 GMT
As a slightly off topic, but still related aside, has anyone here tried the T20RP mk3? The more open design, in theory, could possibly lend itself to a more open soundstage, and the bass response looks a little peakier, which could possibly lend a touch more excitement to non-studio listening. Or maybe it's not really that much more open? At any rate, I'm wondering how new pads, cotton, etc, would work without closing any ports? Could the sub-bass be extended without closing it up?
The 20s aren't nearly as popular as the 50s, so not nearly as much information out there.
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 4, 2016 16:41:18 GMT
What a pain, Mark. I've had three and none had problems like that. They all had a connection problem with the plug into the cup though. You just wiggle it back and forth and it cleans itself up.
What a pity. Hopefully, you'll get a new one soon.
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 10, 2016 13:11:11 GMT
Any sign of a replacement yet, Mark?
I must admit, coming home and listening to these again is such an improvement on what I was using in Norwich!!
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Post by jello on Apr 10, 2016 15:19:40 GMT
Nothing yet Ian. They arrived back with the seller on Thurs so hopefully I'll hear back from them shortly.
They're not the easiest to drive are they? Think I had to turn them up a fair bit more than the DT990 during my brief listen.
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 10, 2016 15:41:34 GMT
Yes, they do need a lot of power for sure. They definitely don't pick up hiss easily from amps because of that. I use the idsd Nano for portable use which is really good and aeems to suit it well. If headphones are prone to hissing, the Nano will give it!!
I compared to the hd650 today. While there is a similarity in sound, the Shure pads make them lesstoppy and a shade darker. Bass hits harder and actually, lostening to the Senn without filter after the T50 makes it seem quite lacking in bass. The sound is also more 'concentrated' than the Senn. More like a closed headphone but tbh, I do like it this way.
With standard pads and the vents all open, it's got a treble edge which some people like. Mine is more like my modded T40 but has a bigger bass.
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 15, 2016 16:03:55 GMT
The tuning of the new T50 with the Shure pads is close to my old T50 and a bit bassier than my T40 so I just put the Kameleon filter in and tried it. Yes ..... Improvements.
Top end is more open and deeper bass. It's kind of like a 'loudness' switch. Not massive, but significant to the overall sound. With filter the V3 lights up as well which is great news!! Actually, it's a fantastic combo.
So the old filter is still effective with the V3 with the 1540 pads on. Not surprising though since I used my T40 as the reference but I got the new T50 to produce a bit more bass. The airiness in the treble helps it a lot too.
So for the time being, my hd650 will have to take a rest!!
The Kameleon T50 filter is really a good 'un as well. That and the hd650 one are the best I reckon!!!
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Post by jello on Apr 19, 2016 9:38:10 GMT
Won't derail the thread but just a quick update.
11 days after returning my T50RP to the ebay seller (Juno Records) they were still twiddling their collective thumbs so I asked ebay to step in. They found in my favour and organised a refund within a couple of me getting in contact so good service from ebay at least.
Unfortunately it does mean I lost the 20% ebay promo (got them for £90 originally) and it would have cost £120ish to buy elsewhere. Too much for a heapdhone that was meant as a bit of fun so I opted for the Momentum 1.0 I had my eyes on instead.
Will keep an eye on prices though in case a pair comes up cheap again.
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Post by Rabbit on Apr 19, 2016 12:47:57 GMT
Thanks for the warning, Mark. I always thought Juno were pretty good. I guess that they didn't say what the hold up was? It's not like they're that hard to get hold of.
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Post by jello on Apr 19, 2016 13:02:47 GMT
Thanks for the warning, Mark. I always thought Juno were pretty good. I guess that they didn't say what the hold up was? It's not like they're that hard to get hold of. I've used them a few times Ian and they've always been fine. Aside from their insistence on using a single sheet of bubble wrap to protect headphones rather than double boxing (pet hate). When I sent the return request I asked about the possibility of a replacement rather than refund. About 5 days after they'd received the headphones back I was still none the wiser about their intentions so nudged them again. Still nothing so a couple of days later asked for a refund. That (or perhaps the approaching deadline when a customer can ask ebay to intervene) finally illicited a response. They offered to either send a replacement that day or issue a refund. By that point I wasn't too chuffed so stuck with the refund....fast forward 4 days and still nothing so asked ebay to assist. The only excuse I got out of Juno is that it takes them a week to process returns because they get so many. I'd given them 11 (almost 12) and who knows how much longer it would have taken had ebay not stepped in. I suppose like many places they are good at getting boxes out the door quickly but not so hot when things don't go to plan. Anyway best to draw a line under things and let normal service resume
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Post by Stupid bass queston on May 22, 2016 11:51:59 GMT
I'm not new to good audio but I am new to making mods; I have a pair of MK3's that I love, but they are a tad bass-light.
I'm not against opening them up to do some mods that will improve this already remarkable headphone. I've got the cup vents where I like them, more soundstage - so rather more open than perhaps the guy would like - but the bass improvement will need me to re-open them. I opened them a couple weeks ago just to peek.
Anyway - closing the baffles improves the bass, got it. What about the open cell foam on the driver back (or simply cover the driver with micropore), the Newplast, and the adhesive acoustipack in the cup bottoms? I'm being horribly dumb here, but that Head-fi thread doesn't specifically say "This mod does miss, that mod does bass, and this one does this over here...." you know? I can't read frequency graphs very well, and I'd like to do as few as I can because I basically like the sound as it is. Bass up a bit, perhaps tame the highs just a tad - and only a tad.
Thanks guys!
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Post by solderdude on May 22, 2016 12:21:49 GMT
The problem with most mechanical and acoustical mods is that when you change something, another aspect is also affected and not always in a good way. For that reason it may be difficult to state which mods do this or that because they might influence each other. I don't have one of them so haven't measured it. For me (and have quite some experience) modifying without having a proper reference available or measurements I find it to be difficult. For several reasons I might add. looks like the Shure Alcantra pads might be an easy step in the more bassy direction. Have neither mkIII nor those pads so can only echo what I read. Perhaps have a look at SBAF (as an alternative to HF) as well. www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/t50mkiii.128/Haven't planned on ordering one yet, already have 2 modified T50RP's with filters.
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Post by Stupid bass queston on May 22, 2016 15:46:26 GMT
Thanks! but no offense, but that's just my issue with the Head-fi thread as well. Certain mods influence a certain general area of the sound. If you want more bass, you do a certain mod. More treble, you do a certain mod. Obviously it will influence the rest of the spectrum, and everyone knows this, but still no one says "this one right here is basically a bass/mids/treble/etc mod." The pre-qualification is that any mod will effect the sound, and potentially the entire range of sound or enjoyment from a given headset, but it's almost impossible for intro-DIYers to just figure out which mods lean towards which area of the frequency. I've passed up the Shure pads, had the change and passed, because I already have angled Hybrids on there that I like for comfort and sound. I'll keep reading and see what I come up with, and will check the link for SBAF as well. I just hate taking the pads off innumerable times to mod-check-mod-check and put wear on the components.
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