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Post by solderdude on May 11, 2014 19:01:02 GMT
yep the same switch... it's the huge vol control knob that makes that switch look dwarfed !
The HD650 on the amp is like an HD600 with subbass and a tad more sparkle and has the distortion level of a HD650.
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Post by solderdude on May 13, 2014 20:37:40 GMT
Dicky pointed me to an error in the BOM list.
For CON1 the wrong order codes were listed for Farnell and RS-online. They are corrected in the latest manual (V 1.04)
CON1 = socket DIL-8 Mouser: 571-1-1825093-2 Farnell: 1654374 RS-online: 783-0000 Conrad: 189502 - 89
The socket must be the cheap spring loaded type and not the more expensive turned pin type as seen in the posted pictures and manual. I have used a turned pin in the prototype because I also had (expensive) pins that fit in that DIL socket.
The prescribed pin headers won't though but they do sit nicely in those cheaper sockets.
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Post by solderdude on May 14, 2014 10:26:38 GMT
A sort-off try it before you buy it.... But ONLY for HD650, T50RP and modified K550 owners (or those headphones that lack bass) I have compiled an MP3 with excerpts of 3 songs. Don't expect super-fi as the file was created using 3 MP3 files that were normalized and resampled and converted to MP3 again. This 'master file' was then played back on FiiO X3 into the Kameleon which was recorded using the SB1240 on 44.1/16 The files created were MP'3 yet again and uploaded. There are thus 4 files available for download for 7 days ! (click on the highlighted word 'download' on the left) The recorded files are the same as the original files + FiiO X3 playback + Kameleon (with filter module) + recording + MP3 encoding. It's thus NOT about sound quality but what the filters used CHANGE. Also these files are NOT normalized after they have been recorded so do NOT level match with the original. One called original file and this is the 'source file' that was played back on the X3. There are 3 other files that have passed through the Kameleon and can give you a preview of HOW your headphones will sound ON the Kameleon from a portable player ON those specific headphones. Let me be clear... it is pointless to play the HD650 file on another headphone as that other headphone requires a DIFFERENT correction. For this reason the files available SHOULD only be played back on the 'target' headphone. I made files for 3 headphones: Modified T50RP (but you could also try it on standard T50RP's but the correction would not be completely accurate) Sennheiser HD650 AKG K550 (the MODIFIED version). This filter (for the modified K550) basically is only a 'bass boost' so you can play it on other headphones that are LACKING bass and see if the Kameleon with Bass boost is something you may like. You can use any normal playback system to 'emulate' the Kameleon's action. So IF you have a HD650 and want to know what the Kameleon will/can do for it play back the 'original' file and the 'Only for HD650' file. The latter is how your HD650 will sound when connected to the Kameleon The HD650 filter is designed for the older black driver version and the silver/white version needs slightly less treble boost) The same goes for the T50RP. Compare the 'original' file with the 'Only for T50RP' file and see if that's what you are looking for. The filter PCB sound different from the Kameleon as the Kameleon cannot fully/exactly compensate but will certainly bring it closer to 'flat'. The files will only be available till May 20th. www.filemail.com/d/vwolzakhaiznckx
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Post by Dave on May 14, 2014 20:05:13 GMT
Hi Frans, I have D/L'd both files (inc. K550 in my case) and had a good listen to both tracks. IMO the difference is subtle rather than major and that may be due to how you designed it to be or my poor hearing at that end of the spectrum, or a combination of both. I would not expect the difference to be overwhelming as I am not a bass head and I guess overdoing it would spoil it anyway . Whichever, I think the difference is a distinct improvement and well worth the effort and/or expense so I am happy to confirm my requirement for the 'bass boost' PCB in addition to the Kameleon. This is in no way intended to be any criticism of the effect, more a report on my poor hearing, if others would describe the effect differently. BTW would you mind advising what the first and last track segments were as I quite liked both? I have a distinct feeling that I have heard the lady before but perhaps not the gentleman. Cheers, Dave.
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Post by solderdude on May 14, 2014 21:15:24 GMT
For the K550 there is indeed 'only' a subtle difference in the lows as for all other frequencies the damn thing is scaringly flat.
Indeed the trick is in not overdoing it although some people are of the opinion you cannot have enough bass (my 12 yo son ?)
Of course if you would like a tad more lows this would be very easy to implement and the proper time to say so.
The good part is that you can also have a module that is flat (won't cost that much) and turn it in a 'normal' but powerful headamp. Also other headphone you might have and like but would like them more if they would do just ... this or that a bit better can be a much more pleasant listen. Also when you would acquire other headphones in the future these can be corrected as well.
The lady: Patricia Barber (1st part), album companion, song touch of trash, middle part = Keb'Mo' album: slow down, song: I was wrong, last part = Mark Knopfler, album: sailing to philadelphia, song: el macho
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Post by Dave on May 14, 2014 21:56:03 GMT
Quote from Frans' post above:-" "Of course if you would like a tad more lows this would be very easy to implement and the proper time to say so. The good part is that you can also have a module that is flat (won't cost that much) and turn it in a 'normal' but powerful headamp. " Given the cost of modules, can I add to my order an extra module that would give the "powerful headamp" mod please? It would be nice to be able to 'ring the changes' and get a bit more volume (when the wife is nagging ). Javier, please add this to my order if not too late.BTW it was nice to have confirmation that I heard what I was supposed to hear . And thanks for the track info - I would have guessed at Ms Barber but perhaps not Mr. Knoppler . Cheers, Dave.
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Post by deireleire on May 15, 2014 11:51:43 GMT
I listened to the t50rp and the hd650, was convinced the T50rp filter was going to improve SQ and it did without a doubt, was a little sceptic on the hd650 filter (was very pleased with the org sound), but i really liked the changes. This doesn't exactly eases my waiting for a finished kameleon ( Javier )... but I know now I'll be as happy as a kid on easter.
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2014 15:22:17 GMT
Hi Frans, To make the P&P costs as low as possible I have discussed with Javier the idea of him doing the difficult bit and me adding the case and batteries - I believe putting it in the case is well within my capabilities . With the batteries in mind, looking round my local Maplins I found these, Code: N68CY. As they do not mention low self drain but do mention that they should not be left connected to the charger I thought I would be well advised to ask your opinion as to their suitability - do you have any thoughts? If suitable these may be of interest to anyone building their own Kameleon. TIA, Dave.
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Post by solderdude on May 15, 2014 18:32:02 GMT
These Maha (Powerex) batteries will be fine. They can be left on charging indefinitely in the Kameleon, just not on fast chargers which the Kameleon is definitely not It doesn't say they are Low Self Discharge and probably are not as well. In general LSD cells tend to have a somewhat lower capacity. If you already own these batteries you can use them. However, if you still need to buy batteries I suggest the Vapextech. They have about the same capacity (slightly lower) but are LSD and the charger was designed around these batteries. A pleasant bonus is the price as they are half the price (GBP 4.50) of the Maha(powerex) battery.
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Post by solderdude on May 17, 2014 7:01:16 GMT
Added the DT990-Pro to the article. For those owning one and want to know the differences in sound when played from a standard amp and the kameleon with DT990 filter you can have a listen to the files from this download. These files will ONLY be available till May 23th. It is pointless to listen to the files with other headphones, perhaps with the exception of the DT770 which will be 'partly' corrected as well.
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Post by juke on May 17, 2014 9:13:37 GMT
A sort-off try it before you buy it.... I tried this with my T50RP and it was a very easy way of spotting the differences. I didn't refer to the earlier posts about the Fostex and didn't look at the graphs you made of my particular T50s until afterward. I was delighted that I could tell the difference, and relate it to the graph, so clear and more involving. It also reminded me how good a 'phone the modded T50 are as they had fallen out of use since the HE6 arrived. I'll keep them out from now on, never a good idea to put things out of sight! Over the weekend I'll dig out the current filter and have a listen that way. I'm certainly looking forward to getting the Kameleon (3 filters have been requested from Javier) Syd
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Post by Rabbit on May 17, 2014 10:50:34 GMT
The modded T40/50 with filter is very easy to take for granted. It is SO neutral sounding that if you compare with many other headphones, it allows you to easily spot the flaws of others.
I really like the DT990 but my goodness, the problems with the sound you get become obvious when you come from a T40.
I get a bloated bass with no real sub stuff going on and in spite of the treble peak at 10khz, they aren't as 'airy' as the modded t40. The DT990 are still impressive though in spite other colourations.
Frans, I keep meaning to ask, are the eq modules all active? ie, is it possible to manipulate say a DT990 passively?
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Post by solderdude on May 17, 2014 11:38:36 GMT
The filters are active but rather basic compared to the filter PCB. Also to keep power consumption low (portable) as few as possible active components are used. This limits the usage and corrections that can be made.
Basically the filters are 'plugged' in an amp section and complete the circuit. Therefore it is not possible to use the amp without a filter installed as the filter components are part of the whole circuit. Of course when a module with just resistors is inserted it will act as a 'normal' amp.
Only a few headphones can be corrected reasonably well using passive filtering only. It is relatively easy to 'filter' specific frequency(band)s but there aren't that many headphones that only need a single (simple) reduction filter. Most headphones need boosting and reduction in different parts of the frequency range. This can only be done actively as gain is needed to 'boost'.
It is possible to reduce the treble peak passively for a low impedance headphone but for 250 Ohm headphones the inductors need to become large in value and size as well because they need to be low in resistance.
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Post by dicky on May 17, 2014 19:16:57 GMT
Hi Frans,
thanks for the DT990 module values. My Kameleon is built - except for DC1 (due to be delivered soon) - is it possible to fire the amp up without DC1 connected?
Dicky
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Post by solderdude on May 17, 2014 19:28:12 GMT
Yes, the DC1 only supplies the charging voltage/current for the batteries. There are several possible part numbers for them and whichever is cheapest or available can be used. The same goes for the small op-amp IC3
A note aside. Those looking for capacitors for the filters and having a hard time finding certain values in the correct sizes can also use 1206 sized SMD capacitors and solder those onto the pads. NP0 or C0G is preferred but X7R can also be used.
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