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Post by solderdude on Sept 21, 2014 20:53:45 GMT
Both are the newer model with the wider SL pads. The CC version has a Coiled Cord and appears to be the only difference.
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Post by oldson on Sept 25, 2014 18:02:23 GMT
oh, i see. in your opinion , assuming i get a good seal, do you think the isolation would be good enough to block out a tv (at reasonable volume) in the same room? the main reason i ask is, i wish to enjoy my return to fish keeping. i have a new large tank in the sitting room and i would like to collapse on the sofa and watch the fish without having to endure neighbours, home and away, emmerdale, eastenders etc
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 25, 2014 18:10:50 GMT
Dt250 isolates well and has a more 'full' sound than the DT 1350. Personally, I find it a more satisfying listen without Frans mods and filter.
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Post by oldson on Sept 25, 2014 18:32:48 GMT
Dt250 isolates well and has a more 'full' sound than the DT 1350. Personally, I find it a more satisfying listen without Frans mods and filter. thanks Ian i will do a little research on those too.
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 25, 2014 18:36:51 GMT
Glad (and relieved) to see you back Simon. I thought I'd done something wrong!!!
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Post by oldson on Sept 25, 2014 18:40:52 GMT
Glad (and relieved) to see you back Simon. I thought I'd done something wrong!!! no mate it was a tad complicated. i did explain to Frans. all good now
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Post by solderdude on Sept 25, 2014 19:10:27 GMT
The DT250-250 is a very 'true' headphone that is quite flat, isolates well and is comfortable over ear (velour) but clamps a bit firm. It is very neutral but lacks somewhat in 'finesse'. Like the DT1350 it is targeted as a 'pro' headphone for monitoring and both do well. The DT1350 is a bit finicky and on-ear and also isolates well but on-ear and can be driven from a DAP. I don't care much for the stock sound of it for hifi but is has great potential. The DT250-250 is an over ear with a very neutral sound but should be driven from an amp and may not play loud on some DAP's. There is also an DT250-80 Ohm version but that doesn't sound as good. The DT250-250 is something I can recommend as 'neutral' and a safe bet. The DT1350 is more like a tool and harder to recommend. It should be auditioned as there is quite some spread in SQ and perhaps (silent) changes were made over the years. Plots of both headphones can be found HERE
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Post by oldson on Sept 25, 2014 20:50:17 GMT
The DT250-250 is a very 'true' headphone that is quite flat, isolates well and is comfortable over ear (velour) but clamps a bit firm. It is very neutral but lacks somewhat in 'finesse'. Like the DT1350 it is targeted as a 'pro' headphone for monitoring and both do well. The DT1350 is a bit finicky and on-ear and also isolates well but on-ear and can be driven from a DAP. I don't care much for the stock sound of it for hifi but is has great potential. The DT250-250 is an over ear with a very neutral sound but should be driven from an amp and may not play loud on some DAP's. There is also an DT250-80 Ohm version but that doesn't sound as good. The DT250-250 is something I can recommend as 'neutral' and a safe bet. The DT1350 is more like a tool and harder to recommend. It should be auditioned as there is quite some spread in SQ and perhaps (silent) changes were made over the years. Plots of both headphones can be found HEREwould the fiio x5 potentially drive the dt250-250 ?
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Post by solderdude on Sept 25, 2014 21:13:48 GMT
Yep... no problem. It can reach 30mW = 114dB peak so about 105dB average which is loud enough.
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Post by oldson on Sept 26, 2014 20:30:18 GMT
cheers guys. i am struggling to find any shop where i could go and demo these, so may just take a chance anyway. i have noticed beyer do another closed unit at around the same price, the dt660. any experience with those?
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 26, 2014 21:17:27 GMT
Simon, the DT250 has quite a substantial lead so isn't great for moving around. Fantastic at home but I wouldn't wear them out in the street. They are very good though.
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Post by solderdude on Sept 27, 2014 6:21:40 GMT
That's something I had forgotten about.... the lead. Very impractical for portable usage.
The DT660mkII doesn't have terrific bass quality (but plenty quantity) and sounds a bit honky in the mids (somewhat similar to DT1350 in stock form)
Chances are you could only demo the pro series headphones in (big) shops that sell instruments. You could try to find online shops with a return policy. Shops like Thomann have this.
I have the Philips A5Pro on the way. Closed and great sounding (as far as I could hear on a crappy demo rig). Got it 2nd hand for 1/2 the price !
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 27, 2014 7:16:53 GMT
I was always curious about the old Philips one that you got Frans, now no longer available which is pity since they went at such a good price. Now you rarely see them.
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 27, 2014 11:20:18 GMT
Simon, I just had a thought. I think you may be in South of UK. If you are, there's another headphone that is quite good and you may be able to demo it in the shop I found them in.
The Roland RH300 or its open version brother. (Which is slightly better actually) there's a great music shop in Eastbourne called Bonners. I use them for gear and recently bought anothe electric piano from them. (Would you believe, it helps lower the tax bill?) they stock the Rolands and was where I first heard one. If you took a dap down, they may have one attached too piano for you to try.
The rh300 is a very well behaved closed headphone. Lead is too long for walking around, but it is straight and I roll it up and wrap it around me!! You can't do that with the Beyer cord which is coiled. It's also a lot more sensitive than the Beyer and so works quite nicely from low powered devices. Better from and amp though.
I take the lead down my body, under my belt and then wrap it around me at belt level. Great for mowing the lawn!!
You tend to forget that it's a closed headphone. Pretty open and flat. Nice thing about it is that the treble doesn't sting and the bass doesn't overpower like so many closed headphones. Beyer is similarly balanced, but slightly different in timbre. Mids seem a bit more forward on the Roland.
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Post by oldson on Sept 27, 2014 16:18:31 GMT
Simon, I just had a thought. I think you may be in South of UK. If you are, there's another headphone that is quite good and you may be able to demo it in the shop I found them in. The Roland RH300 or its open version brother. (Which is slightly better actually) there's a great music shop in Eastbourne called Bonners. I use them for gear and recently bought anothe electric piano from them. (Would you believe, it helps lower the tax bill?) they stock the Rolands and was where I first heard one. If you took a dap down, they may have one attached too piano for you to try. The rh300 is a very well behaved closed headphone. Lead is too long for walking around, but it is straight and I roll it up and wrap it around me!! You can't do that with the Beyer cord which is coiled. It's also a lot more sensitive than the Beyer and so works quite nicely from low powered devices. Better from and amp though. I take the lead down my body, under my belt and then wrap it around me at belt level. Great for mowing the lawn!! You tend to forget that it's a closed headphone. Pretty open and flat. Nice thing about it is that the treble doesn't sting and the bass doesn't overpower like so many closed headphones. Beyer is similarly balanced, but slightly different in timbre. Mids seem a bit more forward on the Roland. i do like the look of those rolands. found some good customer reviews too. i am pretty sure there is a instrument shop in maidenhead that stocks roland gear, so will try and pop in this week. thanks Ian
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